On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 06:33:03 -1000 david <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hartmut Noack wrote: > > Am 08.02.2011 09:15, schrieb david: > >> Hartmut Noack wrote: > >>> Am 08.02.2011 08:35, schrieb david: > >>>> Robin Gareus wrote: > >>>>> Hi Mike, > >>>>> > >>>>> On 02/07/2011 04:40 PM, Mike Cookson wrote: > >>>>>> For non-realtime (including non-linear, like montage) processing you > >>>>>> need only plugins (ladspa, lv2, vamp) and some editor like Audacity, > >>>>>> mhWaveEdit or something other. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For realtime (also called > >>>>>> non-destructive editing... hm, probably, they are right :) you need > >>>>>> set of various software, that could be used at one time and be > >>>>>> connected each to other). > >>>>> > >>>>> real-time effects processing and non-destructive editing often go hand > >>>>> in hand, but note that > >>>>> > >>>>> "non-destructive" means that the original [audio] data will never be > >>>>> modified. Any edit/effect/modifications are saved as new files (or > >>>>> remebered as application-settings operating on the original data). > >>>>> > >>>>> audio-editors (rezound, audacity, sweep, etc) are usually destructive: > >>>>> load file, apply effect, save file -> original file is gone. > >>>> > >>>> Audacity is import audio file, apply effect, save project (optional), > >>>> export in chosen format. It never replaces the original file. > >>> > >>> So there is a major dfference between audiofiles, you have imported > >>> and audiofiles, you have recorded with audacity -- correct? > >> > >> No, I never have. I usually use JACK, and have never been able to make > >> Audacity work with JACK. I've only done the following things with > >> Audacity: > >> > >> 1. Import 16 tracks of 32-bit WAV files (recorded on another machine > >> from my church band's Firewire interface using some Windows software) > >> and do basic mixing. > >> > >> 2. Trim and cleanup voice audio recordings made on my PDA. > >> > >> 3. Trim and convert wave files recorded using jack_capture. > >> > >> 4. Pitch shift prerecorded MP3s if needed for band members who play > >> solely by ear (if the recording's in Eb and we're playing it in D, > >> they're lost). > >> > >> If you have the time and brains needed to learn Ardour, go for it! > >> > > I think it is a myth, that Ardour is too complicated to learn for a > > beginner. > > Perhaps it's a myth for others. I responded only from my own experience. > > There are plenty of folk here who use Ardour and do wonderful things > with it. Advanced features? I couldn't tell an advanced feature from a > basic feature. I couldn't even figure out to simply record anything with > it, and Ardour's "automagic" setup didn't seem to include that connection. > > No insult to Ardour, I'm no audio techno whiz. I figured I'd wait til > Ardour 3 is released and I have the time to learn it. I had exactly the same experience. Twice over a two year period! These days I either record with timemachine, then process later in audacity, or record directly into Rosegarden, where I usually have associated MIDI tracks. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user