On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:08:29 +0000
allcoms <allcoms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi list,
I suppose I could've just addressed this to drobilla and got most of
my
questions answered but it concerns us all really as even if A3 and
qtractor
were to achieve feature parity with Cubase and buds tomorrow
(obviously I'm
stretching things a bit there) we still wouldn't see vast droves
switching
to Linux DAWs for a few reasons such as hardware support, people
liking what
they know etc. but most importantly the dearth of quality native
plugins
available for Linux seems to be a primary showstopper for most.
DSSI has a few things coded for it but not much and its still very
early
days for LV2 so the open plugin format of the future is still
anyones game
and it may not necessarily be either of those that succeeds and gets
widely
used of course. I think a couple of VSTs have been ported over to
LV2 but
I'm not aware of any that have been ported to DSSI and I think that
the ease
in doing so is quite an important factor in the success of any such
format,
if not the be-all and end-all. If anyone here has any experience
with coding
and/or porting VSTis - what is currently lacking from LV2 or DSSI
that could
potentially cause problems for someone wanting to port their big
beefy synth
or snazzy FX from VSTi to LV2 or DSSI? I already know about the
incomplete
persist LV2 extension but I'm pretty sure that won't be the only
thing
needing work.
A very important factor for such a format would definitely be that
the major
hosts (commercial, foss or otherwise) for all major platforms would
be able
to easily implement support for it and that plugins would be easy to
port
between the different platforms. I'm not aware of any DAWs for
Windows that
support LV2 or DSSI yet but I could be wrong? There's nothing
stopping a
closed source, commecial app vendor adding support for either format
is
there? Another factor I see as increasingly important is that the
plugin
format should be able to take advantage of OpenCL to take advantage
of the
superior processing power of todays GPUs. Quite how we'd convince
Steinberg
and co. we need a replacement for VSTi and get them to support an
open
standard though is anyones guess :/
They won't support a cross platform open standard. (Steinberg)
Good point about DSSI though. I've been trying a few, and they work
ok. I'd ask what's missing (if anything) in the DSSI protocol that
could enhance the opportunities for coders to build more plugins,
synths, etc... Perhaps strengthening DSSI (if needed), coupled with
LV2 would be sufficient for plugin/synth options/formats?
LV2 seems to be moving along, although i just installed Tom's new
ir.lv2 and it won't run at all with lv2_jack_host, or lv2jackrack. So
it's Ardour specific. (As he did indeed indicate.)
I have the mighty jconvolver though, so nothing is lost.
Alex.
Alex.
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