On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 05:09:01PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: > I never got the point of Java. It has terrible performance and is much more > complicated then Python. > If you want performance go to C/C++, if you want produtivicty go Python. So > why Java? To get a job? Java is all over Corporate America. > > > 2010/10/14 Kris Calabio <cpczk@xxxxxxxxx> > > > That's assuming that you begin using java with an IDE. I never started > > using eclipse until after like a couple years of programming. As long as > > you have the Java API on your system, doing it all on terminal is easy. > > > > I see what you're saying though about "take this as given, ignore it for > > now." What does public static void main( String[] args ) even mean anyway, > > right? Personally, I think the low-levelness of C might be a little > > intimidating. I've never used Python before, but it seems like it would be > > a better first language than Java. > > > > -Kris > > > > --- On *Thu, 10/14/10, Philipp ??berbacher <hollunder@xxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote: > > > > > > From: Philipp ??berbacher <hollunder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: Re: OT: C or C++? > > To: "linux-audio-user" <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 11:10 AM > > > > > > Excerpts from Kris Calabio's message of 2010-10-14 19:22:32 +0200: > > > What are everyone's honest thoughts on Java? When I started Computer > > Science at my school, they were teaching Java. Personally, I thought it > > nice to learn from. I then moved on to C and C++ pretty smoothly. (Though > > I still have alot to learn in C++). > > > > > > -Kris > > > > I'm not experienced in any language but I've dabbled with a few, and > > imho java and how it's taught here is far too complicated or rather > > distracting. > > > > The first thing newbies see, before hello world, is a beast like > > eclipse, which alone causes a whole bunch of problems. Then they have > > to mess with packages, and classes, and objects, although they teach it > > here by saying "take this as given, ignore it for now". The next thing > > they see are some funky classes that allow proper input/output because > > java doesn't seem to have that. Only then they get to start programing > > and can deal with javas built in funkyness. > > What does the following example evaluate to? > > 1.2+3+"||"+3+2.1 > > > > I think there's far too much distracting mess to sort out before you > > even get to programing, so I don't think it's a good teaching language > > (for total beginners at least). > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
