On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Paul Davis <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > most (or maybe just a lot of) code doesn't use PulseAudio directly at > all. it opens an ALSA device that is implemented by the Pulse ALSA > user-space plugin. > > last time i looked lennart was still encouraging people NOT to use the > PulseAudio API for writing apps, but people are. Thanks for the clarification. The underlying issue is that in practice most gnome apps, attempt to contact pulseaudio first, failing with "socket(): Address family not supported by protocol" and causing a short delay before directly going to the device. Since pulse is completely uninstalled on the systems where I see this problem, there's no chance that the ALSA user-space plugin is being invoked, since neither of these packages are installed "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i686" or "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.x86_64" Unfortunately, I see this behavior across-the-board in all Gnome applications, which is one of the reasons why I switched to KDE for everything other than ardour, emacs, evolution, google-chrome, and gnote. Of course, ardour behaves impeccably -- you've trained it well :-) Most of the rest can be taught to behave by setting up gnome configuration to not use any system sounds, and sometimes apps like http://googsystray.sourceforge.net/ need to be explicitly told in every possible setting not to use "system sounds" for notification (despite global gnome settings to the contrary). So the question remains, is there a single configuration setting or environment variable that can prevent applications from even trying to use pulseaudio API directly? Despite Lennart's warning, it seems like most gnome applications have this problem, which lead me to believe that underlying gnome libs are the ones using the pulseaudio API directly. Alternately, maybe we just need a "null socket hack" so that pulseaudio finds the ""socket(): Address family not supported by protocol" and that socket immediately closes and causes pulseaudio to get an error. At least then you won't have the annoying few seconds of waiting every time an audio connection is made. (And of course, the "system" should recognize that if pulse is not running, it shouldn't keep attempting to connect to its socket -- IMHO that's an underlying gnome bug). -- Niels http://nielsmayer.com _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
