Re: ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups

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On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 06:02:21AM +0100, Gwenhwyfaer wrote:

> On 01/07/2010, fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Or also the musicians who performed for the recording
> > you listened to while tending your imperfect garden,
> 
> They got session rates. And you don't know a damned thing about my
> gardening skills.

The 'imperfect garden' is not a comment on your gardening
skills. It's a metaphor used in discussions about Humanism
and related issues ever since 16th century French filosopher
Montaigne first used it.

Neither nature, nor the gardener have full control over a garden,
from both points of view it will always be 'imperfect'.

See for example <http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7253.html>
or <http://www.bibliomonde.com/livre/jardin-imparfait-4035.html>
for the original. Which is hanging around on my desk and would
be a good read for anyone wanting to contribute to the discussion
in this thread. 

> >> But by and large we all agree that freedom of expression is
> >> a basic human right
> >
> > I fail to see the relation between making a copy of some artist's
> > work for your own use, and 'freedom of expression'.
 
> Yet you introduce the concept here, so you must see some connection
> between the two.

I certainly did not introduce the concept of making free copies,
it is what all of this thread has been about. You introduced
'freedom of expression' in this context, so you'd have to explain.

Ciao,

-- 
FA

O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
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