On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Rob <lau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > But geez, look around you. If > you can't see that young people don't see digital representations of things > as having the same value as physical objects, and that some of those young > people are going to be lawmakers in another couple decades, you're in > denial. When works were tied to physical objects -- CDs, vinyl, magnetic > tape -- it was easy to perceive the value of the whole package. But > typing: > > cp davephillips-springof23.ogg /mnt/mp3-player/songs > > doesn't instantly create value the way building a second copy of a car > would, no matter how badly copyright proponents would like to pretend it > does. this is a strawman. "copyright proponents" (and i'm not referring to sony, disney and sony bono, but dave phillips and myself) aren't claiming that copying the expression of an idea creates value and that people should not be allowed to "steal that value". the people who claim that are idiots :) the claim here is that the development of an idea before it is expressed is a form of work. if the work is to be rewarded, its either going to be done before, at or after the point at which an expression of the idea is released into the world. because copying the expression is so easy, its not easy to see how one can ensure sufficient revenue from the release to make it feasible for the artist to *work* as an artist. i'm fine (to some extent) with the conclusion that we, as a society, no longer wish to pay artists & creatives to do what they do. but if that's really going to be the conclusion, we'd better think very carefully about all the side effects. i'm not sure its pretty, and it may be even less pretty than the world in which disney and sonny bono get everything they ask for. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user