Re: Sustain pedal issue with undesired repeated notes (m-audio keystation 88es + qjackctl + qsynth)

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On 08.06.2010 11:12, david wrote:
Nicolas BERCHER wrote:
On 06.06.2010 23:44, Ken Restivo wrote:
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:15:03AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Nicolas BERCHER wrote:
I have a problem I can't face alone on the digital piano I made on
Debian Lenny with qsynth (v0.2.5-2.2), qjackctl (v0.3.2-1) and an
m-audio keystation 88es keyboard.

When I play the piano, some notes will repeat themselves after a few
seconds only if I keep the sustain pedal pressed, just like a delay
effect would do.
I reported that only 4 notes are concerned for the moment, they have
different repeat delays:
  G  : ~7.5 sec (G4)
  G# : ~7 sec (G#4)
  A  : ~6.5 sec (A4)
  A# : ~6 sec   (A#4)
Note that the notes above, relatively to the middle C of a piano
keyboard called C3, goes from G4 to A#4.

Could this be due to an hardware issue in the m-audio keyboard?

Thanks a lot for any idea on how to track down and correct this (if
possible).

Try putting a MIDI monitor program between the keyboard's MIDI output
and QSynth's input port in QJackCtl. Look for the repeats there.

If you have KDE: http://kmidimon.sourceforge.net/

For Gnome/GTK: http://home.gna.org/gmidimonitor/

For none of the above (my preference): aseqdump :-)

-ken

Thank you for answers.
Yes, I also prefer command line tools! ;-)
So, I checked what's going on:
$ aseqdump --list
 Port    Client name                      Port name
  0:0    System                           Timer
  0:1    System                           Announce
 14:0    Midi Through                     Midi Through Port-0
 20:0    SB Live! Value [CT4870]          EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
 24:0    USB Keystation 88es              USB Keystation 88es MIDI 1
$ aseqdump -p 24:0
Waiting for data. Press Ctrl+C to end.
Source_ Event_________________ Ch _Data__
 24:0   Control change          0  64 127
 24:0   Note on                 0  82  82
 24:0   Note on                 0  82   0
 24:0   Control change          0  64   0

The above sequence dumped by aseqdump shows only one note event (lines 2+3: press+release) but I heard a delayed note as mentioned in my first mail.
The keyboard seems to do things right, so I think it comes from qsynth.
Isn't that strange? I mean many people around there use qsynth, am I the only one to have this kind of problem?

Hmm, have never had QSynth repeat a note unless I actually repeated a note. Interesting. I don't know the innards of MIDI events, so don't know what the various numbers above mean.

WAGging around: Is your USB MIDI connection sharing a USB bus with other USB devices? Maybe some other USB device is doing something weird with the bus and something isn't getting handled right?

# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0763:0192 Midiman M-Audio Keystation 88es
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0461:4d15 Primax Electronics, Ltd Dell Optical Mouse
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:0103 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 Card Reader
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

I guess you're right: I have 2 USB buses (one onboard (2nd) and one in front (1st), inside a memory cards reader) and the midi keyboard shares the 2nd bus with mouse and azerty keyboard... I noticed there's no way to plug an usb device on the 1st bus: it only cares about memory cards.
So I unplugged both mouse & azerty keyboard but it doesn't change anything.

Do you think this problem could come from an hardware failure into my SB Live sound card?

Nicolas.

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