Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, david <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hartmut Noack wrote:
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Am 12.05.2010 00:47, schrieb Fons Adriaensen:
So would it not be the most easy and non-obtrusive solution for
everybody involved, if PA just treats every card, that does not follow
"desktop-standards" as a simple stereo-device?
Desktop-audio/legacy-stuff would go to the first 2 ports of such a card
via PA (using its JACK-sink if JACK is running and switching to it as
JACK ist started) and everything else would be handeled by JACK on the
users behest.
Thus PA would not be seen as a trouble-maker, but as a solution most
welcome.
It would still be a trouble-maker. There's no guarantee that the first 2
ports of any such multi-port card are being routed to what PA would
(presumably) be assuming are the appropriate stereo channels out.
The proper way to deal with that is to be card-specific, which is best
done in the drivers.
And the PA-people would not need to add handling of drivers for
un-desktopish hardware to their to-do lists.
Everybody could be happy :-)
The obvious solution for them is to use
the PA<->Jack bridge which is reported to work well.
IMHO, the obvious solution would be for them to simply stop wasting their
time on PA and make an existing and better solution (JACK) better. ;-)
JACK and PA are not aimed at the same problem, and as such are not
either-or in the same way alsa/OSS are. IMO JACK cannot be used as a
general desktop-audio solution, per-app volume, BT headsets, moving
audio streams between sound-cards, all cannot be done with JACK as-is
right now.
JACK "as-is" could be given those abilities, I'm sure. But PA wants to
spend their resources on their project.
Again, PA is not aimed at pro-audio, JACK is. Conversely, JACK is not
aimed at desktop audio, and none of us would like it to be taken in
that direction I think.
I've heard things from the PA camp saying that with PA, you don't need
JACK ...
Anyway, no PA here. Don't need it to play MP3s. Don't need to hear
stupid, pointless audio notifications from desktop software, either - on
ANY OS I use.
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David
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