On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:01:00AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 09:14 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Philipp Überbacher > > <hollunder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > PA tries to do all of this at once, and at least on the > > desktop it fails > > often enough. Sure, many user complaints are old and the > > problems might > > be solved, but many users are fed up with it already and don't > > ever want > > to try it again. > > > > The users that I have seen who are fed up with are generally people > > who are trying to get JACK and PA to work on the same system with only > > a single audio interface. The impression that I have (and it may be > > wrong) is that users who don't try to do this are reasonably happy > > with PA to the extent that ALSA works correctly for their Intel HDA > > chipset. They get features that people have wanted for a long, long > > time (device sharing, per-app sound control, switching output based on > > jack-sensing status, on-the-fly device switching and more) and most of > > this stuff works really well. The headaches seem to come mostly from > > the same place that a lot of JACK user complaints come from these > > days: poor/incomplete/hard to use HDA driver support. > > The other group of people who are fed up are those who had problems with > the early PA-releases in various distros (Ubuntu mostly), solved them by > removing PA, and have since them removed PA on every install/upgrade. Of > course, this starts causing problems, which are then blamed on PA, even > though the original issues which caused them to want to remove in the > first place have been fixed. > > Its amazing how single-minded Linux users can be over something like > this. Isn't a big part of Linux choice, flexibility, and all that? I think that goes back to one of the problems with PA: that some distros are not giving users a choice _not_ to use PA. Users would be more open to experimenting and less prone to snap judgments if they could have an easy way to enable/disable pulseaudio, or perhaps some kind of pass-through mode. That would also help to recognize if problems are coming from PA or from somewhere in the ALSA, driver or hardware layers. -- Joel Roth _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
