On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06:42PM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote: > On Wednesday 14 April 2010 21:40:08 Kim Cascone wrote: > > > yeah well that quite nicely works for machines > > but with human sensory systems you'll find they are quite non-linear > > and hence the field of psycho-acoustics which can be interpreted > > as voodoo by some > > You are mixing something up here. Absolutely. And let me add that psychoacoustics is not the same as subjectivism - the methods used are what they should be to qualify as science, results can be verified and falsified, and there is no voodoo involved at all. If psychoacoustic experiments show not once but over and over again that humans can't detect e.g. a sound in the 2 kHz band if there is another one 50 dB louder in the 1 kHz band (the numbers are just an example, I don't claim them to be exact), then for any subjective result that is in contradiction with this the burden of proof is on those claiming the subjective result. You can't just say 'I do hear this' - you have to explain it as well, and prove it in tests that are as least as strict as the ones leading to the psycho- acoustic results which you seem to invalidate. Usually subjectivist claims fail on both accounts. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user