Re: CC for dummies

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Am 19.03.2010 um 11:27 schrieb Burkhard Wölfel  
<versuchsanstalt@xxxxxx>:

>
>
> Am 13.03.2010 um 12:54 schrieb Nils Hammerfest <list@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:29:29 +0100
>> Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I don't understand the CC license at all. I could dig through a
>>> jungle
>>> starting with google, and I *have* read and understood the basics
>>> regarding CC. I'm hoping for some personal experiences in plain
>>> language. Here goes:
>>
>> First: CC is not CC. There is the "Name Author and Origin" switch
>> and the "Commercial" switch, too.
>> The last one is important if you aim to
>>
>>> 1) What's the advantages for the artist with CC compared to "All
>>> rights
>>> reserved".
>>
>> The music becomes more widespread making you more known and famous.
>> And because its ideologically good your reputation shifts toward the
>> "good side of the force" making it more likely that your music
>> encourages the production of Remixes.
>> For me it exactly what I want because my marketing strategy is "Get
>> known, make money with live-music, merchandise and other ways except
>> selling the music as a product".
>>
>> It also forces any people who use your music to produce samplers/
>> compilations, remixes etc. to release it under the same license.
>> This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and ensures the freedom is
>> granted.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2) What's the disadvantages for the artist with CC compared to "All
>>> rights reserved".
>> You cannot sell your music as a product (CDs, Digital Download, DRM)
>> anymore. Of course technically you could but it makes no sense if
>> the music is also available for free.
>
> Might not make sense but money still. Look at magnatune, they're not
> bancrupt yet. I have books on my shelf that are CC-BY-SA, and yes, I
> paid for them.
>
> As emotional I am getting here and as rigid your standpoint seems to
> me, I think we'd have to introduce numbers into the discussion to make
> it bear any fruit.
>
> But I don't have such numbers.
>
>> It also forces any people who use your music to produce samplers,
>> remixes etc. to release it under the same license.
>
> Not quite. You are the author, you can always relicense. They can
> always contact you and ask for a personal license.
>
> To me, this is just a matter of communication.
>
>> This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and makes it unlikely that
>> you will get you music on any commercial samplers/compilation,
>> except you grant special licenses.
>>
>>>
>>> 3) What's the advantages for the consumer with CC compared to "All
>>> rights reserved".
>> In reality its basically means its free of cost, you can share it
>> and its all legal.
>
> It doesnt have to be free to provide legality of sharing.

What did I write there? I meant to write "free of cost" here, of course.

- Burkhard

> But odds are
> that you'll be able to find a source that is providing it for free
> though.
>
> But again: where's the difference to Madonna's latest stuff being
> available through the nets of evil?
>
> Make your stuff easy to buy and I'm sure people will.
>
> - Burkhard
>
>> You can do whatever you want with the music, remix it sell the remix
>> (if the license is *-sa) etc.
>>
>>> I assume there's no disadvantages for the customer with CC...
>> You cannot just take the CC-music and produce a closed, copyleft-
>> free new derived work. But well, this is not "consumer"... if there
>> is a border between consumer and producer anymore.
>>
>>
>> Nils
>> http://www.denemo.org
>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any input.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Atte
>>>
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