Am 19.03.2010 um 11:27 schrieb Burkhard Wölfel <versuchsanstalt@xxxxxx>: > > > Am 13.03.2010 um 12:54 schrieb Nils Hammerfest <list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:29:29 +0100 >> Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I don't understand the CC license at all. I could dig through a >>> jungle >>> starting with google, and I *have* read and understood the basics >>> regarding CC. I'm hoping for some personal experiences in plain >>> language. Here goes: >> >> First: CC is not CC. There is the "Name Author and Origin" switch >> and the "Commercial" switch, too. >> The last one is important if you aim to >> >>> 1) What's the advantages for the artist with CC compared to "All >>> rights >>> reserved". >> >> The music becomes more widespread making you more known and famous. >> And because its ideologically good your reputation shifts toward the >> "good side of the force" making it more likely that your music >> encourages the production of Remixes. >> For me it exactly what I want because my marketing strategy is "Get >> known, make money with live-music, merchandise and other ways except >> selling the music as a product". >> >> It also forces any people who use your music to produce samplers/ >> compilations, remixes etc. to release it under the same license. >> This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and ensures the freedom is >> granted. >> >> >>> >>> 2) What's the disadvantages for the artist with CC compared to "All >>> rights reserved". >> You cannot sell your music as a product (CDs, Digital Download, DRM) >> anymore. Of course technically you could but it makes no sense if >> the music is also available for free. > > Might not make sense but money still. Look at magnatune, they're not > bancrupt yet. I have books on my shelf that are CC-BY-SA, and yes, I > paid for them. > > As emotional I am getting here and as rigid your standpoint seems to > me, I think we'd have to introduce numbers into the discussion to make > it bear any fruit. > > But I don't have such numbers. > >> It also forces any people who use your music to produce samplers, >> remixes etc. to release it under the same license. > > Not quite. You are the author, you can always relicense. They can > always contact you and ask for a personal license. > > To me, this is just a matter of communication. > >> This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and makes it unlikely that >> you will get you music on any commercial samplers/compilation, >> except you grant special licenses. >> >>> >>> 3) What's the advantages for the consumer with CC compared to "All >>> rights reserved". >> In reality its basically means its free of cost, you can share it >> and its all legal. > > It doesnt have to be free to provide legality of sharing. What did I write there? I meant to write "free of cost" here, of course. - Burkhard > But odds are > that you'll be able to find a source that is providing it for free > though. > > But again: where's the difference to Madonna's latest stuff being > available through the nets of evil? > > Make your stuff easy to buy and I'm sure people will. > > - Burkhard > >> You can do whatever you want with the music, remix it sell the remix >> (if the license is *-sa) etc. >> >>> I assume there's no disadvantages for the customer with CC... >> You cannot just take the CC-music and produce a closed, copyleft- >> free new derived work. But well, this is not "consumer"... if there >> is a border between consumer and producer anymore. >> >> >> Nils >> http://www.denemo.org >> >>> Thanks in advance for any input. >>> >>> -- >>> Atte >>> >>> http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-audio-user mailing list >>> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
