On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:04:00PM -0700, Ken Restivo wrote: > Throughout the decades, I've read various engineers and > producers waxing poetically and rapturously about the Neve > console filters and how great they sound. Same about Helios, Cadac, Midas, ... I worked on big Neve consoles for years, and sure I do like the filters. But see below. > Filters are filters, and there must be some way to measure > their their frequency characteristics and emulate it in > software. Has anyone done that? In LADSPA on Linux? We're close to myths and pseudoscience here. Filters must not add distortion, noise etc. They only change the frequency response. Now classic analog filters used in audio consoles are (with maybe some rare exceptions) all of the 1st and 2nd order minimum phase type. Which means that (given the required controls and ranges) they all do the same thing. What makes them different is how they *feel* - the relation between feeling the knobs move and the actual response. For shelf filters 'gain' and 'frequency' will interact in some way, and for parametrics 'gain' and 'bandwidth' will. There are different ways to define these interactions, and most engineers will prefer one or the other. Unless Neve (or any of the others) are doing something really exceptional (and then we'd know it), I'm pretty sure that if you take e.g. the Neve circuit, replace the potentiometers with some other brand that have either more or less friction, change the type, size and color of the knobs, and modify the layout a bit, nobody would recognise it as 'the Neve filter'. Neve are still in business, you can buy the equalisers. If you do it would be interesting to measure them, but I'd be surprised if anything special would turn up. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
