On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:54:50 +0100 rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Folderol wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:34:45 +0100 > > rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> Folderol wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:07:23 +0100 > >>> rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> cal wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> The main change in 0.051 is to the recorder start logic, which sort of goes like - > >>>>> - Select your wav file, and the recorder becomes armed. > >>>>> - When armed, recording starts with the first note-on event, or a click on > >>>>> the Record button. > >>>>> - When armed, a click on the Stop button disarms the recorder. > >>>>> - When recording, a click on the Stop button stops the recorder, leaving it > >>>>> armed. > >>>>> > >>>>> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/yoshimi/files/> > >>>>> > >>>>> Bon apetit. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Yoshimi is not usable for me as an instrument because of the many xruns. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> \r > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'm astonished that you have this problem. I have found it to be far > >>> less prone to these than the zyn 2.4 source. > >>> > >>> > >> What is less prone? Having regular xruns but less then it was before? Do > >> you get xruns? More when using certain instruments? Or playing chords? > >> > > > > With yoshimi I get no xruns at all while playing 3-4 note chords with > > the left hand plus a melody line with the right hand. This is true even > > with my most complex patches. With the most recent versions, I only see > > xruns while changing instrument patch at the same time as actually > > playing notes (which is a pretty daft thing to do). > > > > > >> Especially when I switch instruments and play chords, is quite simple > >> sometimes to reach to 1000 xruns in a few minuts... I think for an > >> instrument you should have almost none xruns in an hour and strive to > >> get none... > >> > >>> What is your setup? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Debian testing, Jack2, RT kernel : > >> Linux debian 2.6.31.6-rt19-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Nov 12 13:22:20 > >> UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux > >> > > > > This is far more recent that what I'm working with (2.6.29) - I know > > there have been problems with some rt kernels but I don't know which > > ones. Also I tend to work with targeted music distros, such as 64studio, > > where some extra optimisations are done. > > > > > >> @audio - rtprio 99 > >> @audio - memlock unlimited > >> > > > > This looks normal, but I don't see a 'nice' setting. Mine is -10 > > > > > >> I'm using an maudio keystation usb midi keyboard > >> > > > > I don't know this particular keyboard but I have heard that some USB > > ones have problems. I think this actually a mobo problem where there > > are shared interrupts, but I'm far from certain about that. > > > > > >> I think I have a pretty proper configured system... No problems with > >> other apps. > >> > > > > Are the other apps synths or sample players? and do you drive them > > directly from the keyboard? > > > > P.S. > > Just done some test and I can create xruns if I use my most processor > > intensive patches 'hyper matrix' and 'master synth low', but to do > > this I have to play quite fast fully chorded, which is really not what > > these patches are intended for. Both of these are four instrument voice > > 'kits' with long release times and significant extra effects. > > > > Are you running similar heavy-duty voices? > > > > > Mhh it sounds like your yoshimi with your setup is performing much > better then mine. > > Maybe it's the hardware? I've just an simple P4 (2.25) , 1gb ram, maudio > audiophile card. That might be part of it. I run a dual core 64bit machine and have 4G memory. I also use it ONLY for music. Internet and office stuff are all done on a cheap general purpose machine. > What Jack settings do you use? Mostly the default settings. For just Rosegarden and Zyn. I set 64 frames / period which gives a latency of 2.9mS, if I've got a lot of other stuff running as well, or if I'm using the most complex patches I go up to 128 frames / period, which is 5.8mS. On very rare occasions I have to go up to 11.6mS - this is what I had to have most of the time with Zyn 2.2.1, although then it was zombies that were the main problem rather than xruns :( -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user