On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 09:38 -0700, Kim Cascone wrote: > I find this has become rampant in the Linux community - whereas back in > 2006 when I started tinkering with Ubuntu on a PPC this was not the case... > there has been a huge influx of people who like brow beating someone > else in order to feel smarter e.g. better or superior to others...this > is weenie behavior > and it's a shame that this sort of attitude exists, especially in the > music/audio FOSS community where educating others is imperative to > keeping our community growing and being innovative It's not good in ANY community. I believe in civility, community, and discourse. I will say that overall, my linux experience has been very good, but if we want amazing packages like Ardour to take off, we definitely need civility. :-) > > I made a simple inquiry in the #ardour channel a few months ago, and one > > user who shall remain nameless felt it necessary to open up a private > > chat window to be a miserable SOB and belittle me (and someone else that > > I know) about our lack of knowledge in this one area. Not cool. > > personally, I've not found this attitude on the Ardour forum or on the > email list but have not used the IRC channel so I can't comment on this Well, my experience on the #ardour channel has been fantastic, save for this one experience. I come from an analog world and decided to start experimenting with Ardour. A friend posted a project he had recorded using Ardour and asked me if I would mix it. I agreed, and every once in a while as I was mixing, I had a question about Ardour (where they hid certain features, etc...) and everyone was very helpful. Particularly Seablade and las. > as for building my own kernel: I'm a composer, touring musician and > writer who doesn't have the time to start chasing down deps and > trouble-shooting compile erro > rs -- as much as I wish this were all a > hobby I could poke at on the weekends I'm on constant deadlines and > schedules that keep me busy at least 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. > And since royalties are a thing of the past for most electronic > musicians, wearing many hats is the only way one can make a living at > this - and wearing many hats translates to a 70 hour workweek. > So building my own kernel, app, plugins, whatever is a afternoon project > I can't afford to spend time on without shooting myself in the foot. And > is why some of us don't 'roll our own' and depend upon either those who > do or use the repositories. Hence, bleeding edge instability and > beta-testing updates/patches/new versions are not things professional > musicians can afford to deal with. Well, if we want Ardour to become more ubiquitous, then access to it, and its proper functioning should become easier. :-) > I also find the range of musicians on this list refreshing and > enlightening -- some of you have spent time teaching me about the > intricacies Linux audio and for this I'm eternally grateful. The > willingness to teach others is what makes a community valuable IMO. Agreed. Ricardus... _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user