On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 16:39 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > This time I take an alternate route. Lets see if I can start jack even > without PA. > > 1: pasuspender qjackctl > 2: Press "start" on the qjackctl ui. > > 3: Success. > > However, now my system is back to 2005 control status. I have used this script (which I wrote), it is a little better: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lad/2009/7/14/156775 (this one kept the attachment: http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2009/07/0079.html) On that script you can enable autoloading the jack pa plugin, but it does not move running streams there. -- Fernando > This might be fine for some users but not for me as now I can't use > skype and any apps that are not jack aware without running the > oss->jack or alsa->jack wrappers. > > Still, if the startup command for the qjackctl icon in the > "Applications->Sound & Video" menu had "pasuspender" infront of it out > of the box I would probably be happy as a normal user until I had to > get access to skype or some other non jack aware app. A relatively > small price to pay. > > System load is stable at less than 10%. No sign of hald or dbus > implementation bugs here. > > Winner Jack. Pulse audio gets high points for allowing Jack to take > control of the system. > > Ding, Ding, Ding. Prepare for round 4. > > > > > > Patrick Shirkey > Boost Hardware Ltd > > On 08/06/2009 03:52 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > Round two. > > > > I decide to restart pulse audio pulseaudio - D > > > > Now I get a kernel oops. > > > > Time to reboot. > > > > > > > > Kernel failure message 1: > > ------------[ cut here ]------------ > > WARNING: at sound/core/pcm_lib.c:1525 snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 > > [snd_pcm]() (Tainted: P W ) > > Hardware name: Compaq Presario CQ40 Notebook PC > > BUG? (!(substream) || !(substream)->runtime) > > Modules linked in: vmnet ppdev parport_pc parport vsock vmci vmmon > > snd_dummy michael_mic arc4 ecb wl(P) lib80211_crypt_tkip lib80211 vfat > > fat usb_storage fuse rfcomm sco bridge stp llc bnep l2cap sunrpc > > cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 freq_table dm_multipath uinput > > snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec > > ata_generic pata_acpi btusb uvcvideo snd_hwdep snd_pcm videodev joydev > > v4l1_compat bluetooth v4l2_compat_ioctl32 snd_timer jmb38x_ms snd pcspkr > > pata_atiixp soundcore r8169 snd_page_alloc i2c_piix4 video memstick > > sdhci_pci sdhci mii mmc_core output wmi radeon drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core > > [last unloaded: vmnet] > > Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: P W 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 > > Call Trace: > > <IRQ> [<ffffffff8104883f>] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0 > > [<ffffffff8104058f>] ? default_wake_function+0x12/0x14 > > [<ffffffff8105c8ed>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x16/0x39 > > [<ffffffff81029f7f>] ? default_spin_lock_flags+0x9/0xe > > [<ffffffff813ac07c>] ? _spin_lock_irqsave+0x32/0x3b > > [<ffffffffa017bc17>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 [snd_pcm] > > [<ffffffffa03e92ad>] ? snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x0/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffffa03e9332>] snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x85/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffff81051e67>] run_timer_softirq+0x19e/0x224 > > [<ffffffff81063094>] ? getnstimeofday+0x5f/0xb3 > > [<ffffffff8104df6f>] __do_softirq+0x94/0x155 > > [<ffffffff8101274c>] call_softirq+0x1c/0x30 > > [<ffffffff810138ce>] do_softirq+0x52/0xb9 > > [<ffffffff8104db92>] irq_exit+0x53/0x90 > > [<ffffffff81022464>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x8e/0xa7 > > [<ffffffff81012123>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x13/0x20 > > <EOI> [<ffffffff81029424>] ? native_safe_halt+0xb/0xd > > [<ffffffff81017d30>] ? default_idle+0x51/0x7c > > [<ffffffff81017e92>] ? c1e_idle+0x124/0x12b > > [<ffffffff810102a1>] ? cpu_idle+0x68/0xb3 > > [<ffffffff813a5f21>] ? start_secondary+0x199/0x19e > > ---[ end trace 402b79ba4387e7da ]--- > > > > > > Kernel failure message 2: > > WARNING: at sound/core/pcm_lib.c:1525 snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 > > [snd_pcm]() (Tainted: P W ) > > Hardware name: Compaq Presario CQ40 Notebook PC > > BUG? (!(substream) || !(substream)->runtime) > > Modules linked in: vmnet ppdev parport_pc parport vsock vmci vmmon > > snd_dummy michael_mic arc4 ecb wl(P) lib80211_crypt_tkip lib80211 vfat > > fat usb_storage fuse rfcomm sco bridge stp llc bnep l2cap sunrpc > > cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 freq_table dm_multipath uinput > > snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec > > ata_generic pata_acpi btusb uvcvideo snd_hwdep snd_pcm videodev joydev > > v4l1_compat bluetooth v4l2_compat_ioctl32 snd_timer jmb38x_ms snd pcspkr > > pata_atiixp soundcore r8169 snd_page_alloc i2c_piix4 video memstick > > sdhci_pci sdhci mii mmc_core output wmi radeon drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core > > [last unloaded: vmnet] > > Pid: 30047, comm: firefox Tainted: P W 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 > > Call Trace: > > <IRQ> [<ffffffff8104883f>] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0 > > [<ffffffff8104058f>] ? default_wake_function+0x12/0x14 > > [<ffffffff81029f7f>] ? default_spin_lock_flags+0x9/0xe > > [<ffffffff813ac07c>] ? _spin_lock_irqsave+0x32/0x3b > > [<ffffffffa017bc17>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 [snd_pcm] > > [<ffffffffa03e92ad>] ? snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x0/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffffa03e9332>] snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x85/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffff81051e67>] run_timer_softirq+0x19e/0x224 > > [<ffffffff81063094>] ? getnstimeofday+0x5f/0xb3 > > [<ffffffff8104df6f>] __do_softirq+0x94/0x155 > > [<ffffffff8101274c>] call_softirq+0x1c/0x30 > > [<ffffffff810138ce>] do_softirq+0x52/0xb9 > > [<ffffffff8104db92>] irq_exit+0x53/0x90 > > [<ffffffff81022464>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x8e/0xa7 > > [<ffffffff81012123>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x13/0x20 > > <EOI> <4>---[ end trace 402b79ba4387e7d9 ]--- > > > > > > Kernel failure message 3: > > ------------[ cut here ]------------ > > WARNING: at sound/core/pcm_lib.c:1525 snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 > > [snd_pcm]() (Tainted: P W ) > > Hardware name: Compaq Presario CQ40 Notebook PC > > BUG? (!(substream) || !(substream)->runtime) > > Modules linked in: vmnet ppdev parport_pc parport vsock vmci vmmon > > snd_dummy michael_mic arc4 ecb wl(P) lib80211_crypt_tkip lib80211 vfat > > fat usb_storage fuse rfcomm sco bridge stp llc bnep l2cap sunrpc > > cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 freq_table dm_multipath uinput > > snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_idt snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec > > ata_generic pata_acpi btusb uvcvideo snd_hwdep snd_pcm videodev joydev > > v4l1_compat bluetooth v4l2_compat_ioctl32 snd_timer jmb38x_ms snd pcspkr > > pata_atiixp soundcore r8169 snd_page_alloc i2c_piix4 video memstick > > sdhci_pci sdhci mii mmc_core output wmi radeon drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core > > [last unloaded: vmnet] > > Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: P W 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 > > Call Trace: > > <IRQ> [<ffffffff8104883f>] warn_slowpath+0xbc/0xf0 > > [<ffffffff8104058f>] ? default_wake_function+0x12/0x14 > > [<ffffffff8105c8ed>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x16/0x39 > > [<ffffffff81029f7f>] ? default_spin_lock_flags+0x9/0xe > > [<ffffffff813ac07c>] ? _spin_lock_irqsave+0x32/0x3b > > [<ffffffffa017bc17>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x4f/0x2a8 [snd_pcm] > > [<ffffffffa03e92ad>] ? snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x0/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffffa03e9332>] snd_card_dummy_pcm_timer_function+0x85/0x96 > > [snd_dummy] > > [<ffffffff81051e67>] run_timer_softirq+0x19e/0x224 > > [<ffffffff81063094>] ? getnstimeofday+0x5f/0xb3 > > [<ffffffff8104df6f>] __do_softirq+0x94/0x155 > > [<ffffffff8101274c>] call_softirq+0x1c/0x30 > > [<ffffffff810138ce>] do_softirq+0x52/0xb9 > > [<ffffffff8104db92>] irq_exit+0x53/0x90 > > [<ffffffff81022464>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x8e/0xa7 > > [<ffffffff81012123>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x13/0x20 > > <EOI> [<ffffffff81029424>] ? native_safe_halt+0xb/0xd > > [<ffffffff81017d30>] ? default_idle+0x51/0x7c > > [<ffffffff81017e92>] ? c1e_idle+0x124/0x12b > > [<ffffffff810102a1>] ? cpu_idle+0x68/0xb3 > > [<ffffffff813a5f21>] ? start_secondary+0x199/0x19e > > ---[ end trace 402b79ba4387e7bd ]--- > > > > Patrick Shirkey > > Boost Hardware Ltd > > > > > > On 08/06/2009 03:16 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I finally got some time to test out the latest version of Fedora 11 for > > > pulse and jack interaction. > > > > > > I have been wanting to do this for a few weeks as I was told by Lennart > > > Pottering that the latest version of pulse-audio has advanced support > > > for jack when running with jack2 which has logic for signalling to pulse > > > audio that jack is going to start running which makes pulse audio give > > > up control of the audio device, wait for jack to start and then > > > optionally reconnect to jack. The latter requiring some advanced > > > knowledge on connecting pulse audios sinks/sources. > > > > > > The reason I had to use Fedora 11 and not Fedora 10 is because the > > > latest updates to pulse audio cannot be compiled on Fedora 10 due to > > > dependencies being out of date. I decided it was easier to update to > > > Fedora 11 than compile the entire system myself. > > > > > > So, I have a working Fedora 11 running nice and stable for several weeks > > > now. > > > > > > My goal is to test out the new logic in jack2 and pulseaudio as a normal > > > non technical user would experience things. I know how to make it work > > > the hard way but it would be nice for non technical users if someone > > > with the knowledge tested at their level and found any bugs that might > > > be affecting the user experience. > > > > > > Pulse is running nicely in the background. I have been using skype for > > > the past week to do business calls. > > > > > > I start jack and jack can't connect to the default audio device. I turn > > > off skype. Still can't connect. I kill pulseaudio with pulseaudio - k. > > > Still can't connect. I check gnome-volume-control to see if any apps > > > are running that I forgot about. Nothing is running. I turn off > > > alsamixer and the gnome volume control applet in case they are hogging > > > the device for some unknown reason. > > > > > > I double check that pulse audio is not running by scanning the output of > > > ps. I kill it again as root user just to make sure. Both items come up > > > with no mention of pulse audio running. > > > > > > FYI, the version of jack installed from the default Fedora repos is > > > 0.116.1. That means it's jack1 not jack2. So no matter what the latest > > > hooks for working with pulse audio and jack are not in place on the jack > > > side anyway. > > > > > > But this doesn't matter as I don't have any audio processes running but > > > jackd still can't get access to the default device. > > > > > > My experience leaves a lot to be desired considering that Fedora 11 is > > > the latest and greatest version with advanced system config from Lennart > > > himself and I still can't do something as simple as start jackd. > > > > > > I'm not pointing any fingers. But I would like to get to the bottom of > > > this usability issue we currently have between pulse audio and jack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
