On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Olivier Guilyardi <ml@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Crypto wrote: >> Hi @LAU people, >> >> I would like to open a discussion about the MIDI capabilities of LAU >> applications here. >> >> There is quite a number of great LAU software of course and we have seen >> frequent announcements of new versions or even complete new applications. >> >> But from a particular point of view their use sometimes is a bit limited. >> >> I have found that most applications require the user to work (record, program, >> finetune etc.) from behind the computer on which the application runs. But that >> limits the usability in case someone is actually playing an instrument with >> MIDI interface, especially in a live playing environment, and needs something >> more convenient to handle parameters etc. >> >> I have seen few applications that allow for using MIDI commands let alone >> allow me to enter a custom made (be it SYS EX message or any controller >> message) MIDI message to trigger a particular action within the application. >> >> There have been a number of hardware controllers available for some time that >> come with numerous drawbars, pushbuttons and similar stuff to ease controlling >> mixer applications, drum applications or anything else, so having a flexible >> MIDI input interface (software) seems to me to be a really great idea. >> >> At the moment things I would like to do force me to use a MIDI programming >> language instead of using all these new fancy GUI applications with much more >> and much better options apart from their MIDI support than the simple >> programming environment has. I have to program nearly everything on my own. >> And I find myself running against walls because there are just too many things >> that simply do not work. >> >> I wonder if noone else has a MIDI "Start/Stop" feature on their wishlist for >> their favourite drum computer program, or "Fill >> 1/Fill2/Ending1/Ending2/Variation" etc. (which applications like hydrogen do >> not yet have but they are on their way). >> >> I wonder if noone else prefers a real hardware turning knob over a GUI mouse >> slider (which cannot be moved from keyboard, as there is no MIDI controller >> input for the slider...). >> >> What do You think? Anything worth adding for You here? Is better MIDI input of >> applications worth asking for? >> >> Would like to learn more... > > In my particular case, as the developer of Jackbeat, MIDI support has been > postponed until I get a clear idea on how to do it right. I would like to > achieve something as user-friendly as possible, but that can still be adapted to > various hardware. > > So, I need ideas and feedback, and yours would be appreciated as new tickets or > by commenting the relevant ones: > > http://jackbeat.samalyse.org/ticket/20 > http://jackbeat.samalyse.org/ticket/21 > http://jackbeat.samalyse.org/ticket/19 > > Here are the questions that come to my mind: > - what would be the best MIDI configuration system in Jackbeat? > - how to achieve *both* easy and flexible bindings with a control surface? > - should a hw knob control a fixed track and/or the current GUI active track? > - what hardware do/would you use, and what are their peculiarities? > > -- > Olivier > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > regarding your first two questions: I use a device with multiple knobs (as I am sure do many others), so it makes sense to have multiple assignable knobs, one option being the current active track makes sense. Regarding flexible/easy setup, implement midi learn, it is simple: user presses learn button on GUI control (ie. a right click context menu on each knob or slider), then moves a slider or knob on midi device, software takes the fist cc it sees from the external device, and assigns it to that software control. IE I right click and select "learn" on the track 3 fader, then I move a slider that sends CC 6, from now on CC 6 controls the track 3 fader (and for bonus points, have anything other than midi that changes the track 3 fader (automation, gui activity, etc.) SEND a CC 6, for those of us with motorized or LED-ring knobs/faders). _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
