On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 07:02:34PM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote: > Note that I am not for gig and against sf2 (or vice versa), I just see flaws > in your logic... OK, I'll show you the flaws in your logic, then ;-) Most problably there is no flaws in either logic. Your priorities and mine are just different. That's all... though there is at least one objective mistake in your email I want to politely show you. > You want to use sf2 for reasons of freedom? sf2 is not free as in > defined-by-the-fsf. Probably the same as gig (and gig _has_ a free > implementation, just use an old linuxsampler with plain gpl)... And why do you think fluidsynth not free? It is included in Debian and other license-picky distibutions. It is a free implementation of the sf2 format. Linuxsampler is a different issue. Some time ago I talk with Brett Smith (he is in the FSF, for license questions) about the LinuxSampler license, and decided to avoid linuxsampler, unfortunately. There is no old linuxsampler with plain GPL, I'm afraid that you are misinformed in this point. Please, read this text, taken from the FAQ in the official linuxsampler page: I've heard the commercial exception of LinuxSampler was added at a certain version? No, the commercial exception in LinuxSampler's license terms were there since day one. Even further it's not only there since the very first publicly available CVS (developer) version of LinuxSampler, that commercial exception was even already in Benno Senoner's proof of concept code called "EVO", which LinuxSampler was based on. There was even a rumour that we would have manipulated CVS history to "pretend" this exception wasn't added at a later point. Needless to say that this rumour is completely false as well. [...] > If you want a _really_ free format you _have_ to use specimen or something > else which not only has free implementations (heck, even ms word has free > implementations) but also an open format. I have many arguments against this paragraph, but I think they are off topic... so instead I prefer to summarize as: just use ms word format if you want to do so :-) SF2 format is openly documented (OK, the official docummentation is far from perfect, I know), but my main point is the implementation. I will support the gig format with a free implementation (a free implementation can also be seen as documentation). > Again, I am not saying that you should ditch sf2 and use gig for whatever > reasons. I am just saying that your reasons of not doing so are no reasons in > my view. But they are the reasons in *my* view, so if *you* want to create gig files, just do it, I will not stop you! I will be happy to switch to gig format as soon as one free implementation appears. > And if your ideologic reasons are invalid, you might as well use the format > that works best and has the features you need. :-) Sorry, you failed to convince me, better luck next time ;-) _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
