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Re: monitor shot, need advice for a new one > (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) > 2. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei) > 3. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei) > 4. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei) > 5. Re: headphones (Mark Knecht) > 6. ZynAddSubFX chagneing tempo in an instruments effect ? > (Svend-Erik Kj?r Madsen) > 7. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei) > 8. [ANN] Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out! (Rui Nuno Capela) > 9. Re: headphones (schoappied) > 10. Re: headphones (The Other) > 11. Re: headphones (Mark Knecht) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:24:18 -0500 > From: Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: monitor shot, need advice for a new one > To: Dave Phillips <dlphillips@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20080717162417.GC29690@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:23:31AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I'm writing this message while viewing it on my new Samsung 2253BW >> monitor. All I can say about it is that I wish I would have bought two >> of these suckers. I may yet do so, maybe I'll give the Westinghouse to Ivy. > > A man walks into his kitchen and opens the refrigerator door. Sitting > there looking at him is a rabbit. Astonished, the man exlaims, "What are > you doing in there?!?" To which the rabbit replies, "It's a > Westinghouse, isn't it?" To which the puzzled man replies hesitantly, > "Yes ...". "Well, I'm westing," explains the rabbit. > > but, seriously, I'm using a Samsung SyncMaster 225BW, too, and am > perfectly happy. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:54:22 -0700 > From: Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <487FBF8E.9090706@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> for bass practice the 7506's are going to work out great, but they >> aren't the perfect set of headphones. Surprise - none will be perfect > > Previously I was speaking in general. But on the particular topic of > listening to bass, I would appreciate some more insight, since I'm not a > bass player. > So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to > emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat? > > A lot of the phones mentioned here are flat, or even a bit light on the > bass side. Most of the Sennheiser, the AKG K 240, to some degree the > Grado - all these are pretty flat, they don't emphasize anything, or not > in the bass range at least. > > I only know of one phone that is very accurate and has a pretty full > bass - the Beyerdynamic DT 880, but at $320 it's beyond the price range > mentioned by the OP. > > So, do you want the bass over-emphasized when practising it? > > (OTOH, if the phone is accurate, even if it has a thin bass, I guess it > can be corrected in the preamp. But again, I'm not a bass player.) > > -- > Florin Andrei > > http://florin.myip.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:56:29 -0700 > From: Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <487FC00D.1010301@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > schoappied wrote: >> And how is the HD 570? > > I don't know, I never tried it. Read the review on headphone.com if it > has one. > > -- > Florin Andrei > > http://florin.myip.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:14:34 -0700 > From: Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <487FC44A.4070102@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > schoappied wrote: >> So it's not recommend to use a sealed headphone when you're on the road >> riding a bike? > > I would not attempt that as long as I intend to live a long and happy > life. :-) > >> How sealed is sealed... > > Look at the attenuation factor. A sealed phone should be between -10 and > -20 dB, is my guess. > > But anyway, the difference is the back of the acoustic membrane. > Sealed phones - the back moves in a closed box. > Open-air - the back is in an open cavity. There might actually be holes > on the outside of the phone, through which you may actually see the > membrane (not always). > >> You don't make a distinction between pop/ rock music and jazz/ classic >> music headphones? >> (by the way: Isn't a distinction between light music (eg pop/rock/ jazz) >> and classic music better?) > > Music is music, and an accurate phone is an accurate phone. What works > best for one kind of music should work for any other kind. I think the > so-called "phones for classic music", or whatever, are a commercial > gimmick. The phone should not do anything. Quite the opposite, the phone > must get out of the way and just be a pure conduit for the sound, it > must introduce as few changes as possible. > > The only exception might be when you're doing special work. E.g., you're > mixing the tracks and you need a _very_ revealing phone to spot any > defect. Something like a Grado might help. > I don't know what happens when playing the bass guitar. Do you want the > bass emphasized? I'm not a bass player so I can't answer that. > > Otherwise, just get the flattest and most accurate ones you can afford, > and learn to trust them. > Like Mark said, it often helps to get two or three phones over a period > of time, if you can afford them, and use each one of them as needed. > >> There are some of this types on ebay for around 47 euro's, but I don't >> know if I can trust it and if they're exactly the same type of the one >> you have mentioned... >> >> http://search.ebay.nl/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=Sennheiser+HD+280 > > The black ones are the 280 Pro. I have one of those. It's a very good > sealed phone. It's flat and laid-back; people used to cheap bright > phones are usually not impressed. It's like eating super-hot food for > many years, tons of black pepper and what not, and then you go back to a > subtle, refined, normal diet - your taste buds are shot and you may not > feel any taste for a while, which is a paradox because actually only now > you have any chance to feel the real taste of the food, instead of the > fire from the black pepper. I hope that makes sense. > It's something that happens to a lot of people when they listen for the > first time through flat accurate phones. > > -- > Florin Andrei > > http://florin.myip.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:35:30 -0700 > From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <5bdc1c8b0807171535h7d226fa8n8f14c64a6ab1aa03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> for bass practice the 7506's are going to work out great, but they >>> aren't the perfect set of headphones. Surprise - none will be perfect >> >> Previously I was speaking in general. But on the particular topic of >> listening to bass, I would appreciate some more insight, since I'm not a >> bass player. >> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to >> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat? > > In my mind you want the response flat to a bit emphasized in the bass > region. There are really two things operating here: > > 1) Fletcher-Munson tends to drop the bass if you're not listening loudly. > > 2) Most people have never used a sound pressure meter to determine > what volume to listen safely. > > 3) Even if they have it's difficult when using headphones without > special equipment. > > 4) Over time folks tend to listen at lower levels if they are going to > protect their hearing. > > 5) All of that adds up to less bass when listening > > 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the > bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy. > >> >> A lot of the phones mentioned here are flat, or even a bit light on the >> bass side. Most of the Sennheiser, the AKG K 240, to some degree the >> Grado - all these are pretty flat, they don't emphasize anything, or not >> in the bass range at least. >> >> I only know of one phone that is very accurate and has a pretty full >> bass - the Beyerdynamic DT 880, but at $320 it's beyond the price range >> mentioned by the OP. >> >> So, do you want the bass over-emphasized when practising it? >> >> (OTOH, if the phone is accurate, even if it has a thin bass, I guess it >> can be corrected in the preamp. But again, I'm not a bass player.) >> > > That's a possibility also. > > Please note that for the record I don't know what headphones are > accurate. I own AKG's, Sony's & Sennheiser's. I've never owned Grade > or Beyer Dynamics but would like to get a set on day. Comparatively > the Sony's have more bass so it seems a good match for his task. I > think lots of rock bass players (Squire, McCartney, Rutherford, Lake) > sound good in these headphones whereas the other headphones they don't > stand out as much. > > - Mark > >> -- >> Florin Andrei >> >> http://florin.myip.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:44:17 +0200 > From: Svend-Erik Kj?r Madsen <sv-e@xxxxxxx> > Subject: ZynAddSubFX chagneing tempo in an instruments effect ? > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1216334657.3588.14.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi > I have found one of the factory instruments useful for a new project. > > It's the Resonance Synth from the Synth group, but the echo tails comes > a little to fast, they are about tempo 120 and I would like them to be > 100 or even lower, how can I change that ? I've been fidget round with > the instrument editor without any luck so far, and I do not understand > how it works at all, I just want to play :( > > > Help is much appreciated. > > Thanks in advantage > > /Sv-e > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:47:52 -0700 > From: Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <487FCC18.7050107@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Paul Coccoli wrote: >> >> I love my Grado SR-60s. I think I paid $65US. Yes, they are on the >> bright side, but I like that. > > Well, there you have it. Everyone is different. > >> They're not the most comfortable pair >> of headphones, but not too bad. > > That is the only other negative comment I hear about Grado. I don't care > too much about that. Yes, they're not like the HD 600, which you can > fall asleep with and sleep through the night with them on (been there, > done that) and in the morning you forget you had them on (until you get > up and start walking and the cord yanks them back). > But it's not like they're going to rip your ears off or crush your head > either. They're fine for me. But some people do complain about the > ergonomics. OTOH, somebody will always complain about something. > > I've heard there are some custom earpads for them, but I could never > motivate myself to actually investigate that. And who knows, the custom > pads may change the response and throw them off balance. So why mess > with something that works fine already. > > -- > Florin Andrei > > http://florin.myip.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:20:42 +0100 > From: Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [ANN] Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out! > To: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <487FD3CA.2050009@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out! > ------------------------------------------ > > Qtractor is an audio/MIDI multi-track sequencer application written in > C++ with the Qt4 framework [1]. Target platform is Linux, where the a > Jack Audio Connection Kit (JACK) for audio [2] and the Advanced Linux > Sound Architecture (ALSA) for MIDI [3] are the main infrastructures to > evolve as a fairly-featured Linux desktop audio workstation GUI, > specially dedicated to the personal home-studio. > > Qtractor is free open-source software, distributed under the GNU General > Public License (GPL) [15]. > > Author: > > Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc at rncbc dot org> > > Weblog: > > http://wwww.rncbc.org > > Website: > > http://qtractor.sourceforge.net > > Project page: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtractor > > Download: > > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qtractor/qtractor-0.2.0.tar.gz > > > Executive summary: > > - Multi-track audio and MIDI sequencing and recording. > - Developed on pure Qt4 C++ application framework [1] (no Qt3 nor KDE > dependency). > - Uses JACK [2] for audio and ALSA [3] sequencer for MIDI as > infrastructure. > - Traditional multi-track tape recorder control paradigm. > - Audio file formats support: OGG (via libvorbis [6]), MP3 (via libmad > [7], playback only), WAV, FLAC, AIFF and many, many more (via linsndfile > [4]). > - Standard MIDI files support (format 0 and 1). > - Non-destructive, non-linear editing. > - Unlimited number of tracks per session/project. > - Unlimited number of overlapping clips per track. > - XML encoded session/project description files (SDI). > - Point-and-click, multi-select, drag-and-drop interaction (drag, move, > drop, cut, copy, paste, delete, split) > - Unlimited undo/redo. > - Built-in mixer and monitor controls. > - Buil-in connection patchbay control and persistence (a-la QjackCtl [13]). > - LADSPA [5], DSSI [11] and native VSTi [12] plug-in support. > - Unlimited number of plug-ins per track or bus. > - Plug-in presets, programs and chunk/configurations support. > - Audio/MIDI clip fade-in/out (linear, quadratic, cubic). > - Audio clip time-stretching (WSOLA-like or via librubberband [9]), > pitch-shifting (vib librubberband [9]) and samplerate conversion (via > libsamplerate [8]). > - Audio/MIDI track export (mix-down, merge). > - Audio/MIDI metronome bar/beat clicks. > - MIDI clip editor (piano roll). > - MIDI instrument definitions (a-la Cakewalk(tm) [15]) > - JACK transport sync master. > - MMC control surface enabled. > - Configurable keyboard shortcuts. > > > Requirements: > > Mandatory: libqt4 [1], libjack [2], libasound [3], libsndfile [4], > LADSPA [5]. Optional: libvorbis [6], libmad [7], libsamplerate [8], > librubberband [9], liblo [10], DSSI [11], VST-SDK [12]. > > > Disclaimer: > > Qtractor is still in some alpha stage of development, although already > functional it surely has a plenty of lurking bugs. It also lacks some > features that some might find critical in the application field. All is > not lost, as the following are among the ones planned to be worked on in > the times to come (not in any particular order): > > - Automation and MIDI controller mapping. > - Session/project templates. > - Puch-in/out and loop recording (takes). > - Audio clip cross-fading. > - Audio effect send/return aux. inserts. > - Clip locking, muting, normalize (gain). > - LV2 plug-in support. > - JACK MIDI support. > - Tempo and key signature map. > - Paste-repeat command. > - MIDI SysEx manager. > - MIDI event list editor. > - MIDI editor (piano roll) draw mode. > - MIDI groove/swing quantize. > - OSC interface. > - Scripting. > - Etc. etc. > > > Change-log: > > 2009-07-18 0.2.0 The Frolic Demoiselle > > - MIDI clip filename revision logic is now introduced, thus avoiding the > proliferation of several numbered SMF's on each edit/save; some lurking > bugs were exposed in the MIDI clip externalization method but promptly > squashed. > > - Fixed a mouse release event glitch while in drag-and-drop items in the > Files tree list widget. > > - A dummy plugin type option has been devised, just to bear with some > troubled behavior of the lovely JUCETICE plugins > (View/Options.../Plugins/Experimental/Dummy VST plugin scan). Bad news > are that all, yes all as in every native VST plugins, are > indistinguishable from being just pure audio effects, either mono or > stereo, whatever, and thus all being considered full-blown stereo VSTi > instruments (which are the vast mainstream and rather interesting > majority, nevertheless:). > > - The plugin selection dialog (Add Plugin...) now features the option > whether the selected plugins should be activated on insert. > > - Mixer strip titles now have distinguishable type icons, either for > audio or MIDI, and shown on all buses and track strips. > > - Major optimization breakthrough: muted audio tracks aren't streamed > any longer, saving precious CPU cycles from decoding, resampling, > pitch-shifting, time-stretching, plugin effects, whatever. > > - Incredible as it might be, audio/MIDI track record monitoring is now > mixed (or merged) with rolling playback content, thus not as mutually > exclusive between record and playback states anymore; also, track > mute/solo states doesn't apply to recording material anymore. > > - Main form timer slot gets corrected and now independent of current > process buffer-size in regard to JACK transport synchronization. > > - All file references in session state file are now stored as relative > paths to main session directory. > > - DSSI/VSTi plugin presets can now be explicitly recalled from file (ie. > Open/load preset) through this new tool button whether visible while in > the generic plugin form. > > - Due to some trouble with newer Qt >= 4.4 applications regarding font > size configuration, a new global user option is now available to the > rescue: View/Options... /Display/Base font size (default is no-op). > > - Logarithmic scale is now taken into effect by control parameter > sliders, in the generic plugin editor dialog as provided by LADSPA and > DSSI plugin types. > > - MIDI track bank/program does not default to zero (PC#0) anymore. > > - Second attempt for Qt4.4 build support, regarding the bundled atomic > primitives, now corrected and way more seriously :). > > - Long due DSSI/VSTi plugin host implementation has taken shape for MIDI > instruments (eg. soft-synth plugins); DSSI reached its full host > implementation and VSTi is already kicking as well (HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL). > > - DSSI/VSTi plugin presets may now be stored to external XML files, > which should include all parameter values and configuration data chunks, > taken as proper state snapshot and subject for recall. > > - Dedicated audio output bus option is now also accessible for all MIDI > instrument plugins, either set globally as a default mode in > View/Options.../Plugins/Instruments or in the plugin context menu for > MIDI tracks, as an undoable command. > > - Fixed a potential crash-exception due to freeing a null-pointer, > raised on some ever stringent platforms and while adding tracks to empty > sessions, which is the same to say this was crashing more than always:). > > - Loop turn-around is now taken care of, as this has been found missing > and causing noticeable gapping when un-muting or changing MIDI track > events while in playback. > > - An off-by-one bug was fixed while inside MIDI cursor backward seek > method, which was missing all other events that have the same exact > onset timing. > > - Attempt to load Qt's own translation support and get rid of the ever > warning startup message, unless built in debug mode. (transaction by > Guido Scholz, while on qsynth-devel, thanks). > > - Only one application instance is now allowed to be up and running, > with immediate but graceful termination upon startup iif an already > running instance is detected, which will see its main widget shown up > automatically (Qt/X11 platform only). > > - Clip fades have now a slight transparency. > > - Avoid loop read-ahead on initial audio clip loading. > > - Messages file logging makes its first long overdue appearance, with > user configurable settings in View/Options.../Logging; options dialog > was slightly rearranged and moved the Plugins section into a new tab page. > > - Audio/MIDI drifting correction was missing its own correct and due > (re)initialization whenever playback is (re)started; also, MIDI metering > synchronization has been fixed once again. > > - Fixed session cursor backward seeking, specially applicable when > playback passes the end of overlapped clips. > > - Fixed potential crash when opening bogus audio files. > > - Time-stretch FIFO buffer implementation is now made generic, as > template, fixing a destructor memory leak in the process. > > - Include legacy headers, stdlib.h and string.h, where necessary to > build with stricter gcc/g++ >= 4.3. > > > References: > > [1] Qt4 (core, gui, xml), C++ class library and tools > for crossplatform development and internationalization > http://www.trolltech.org/products/qt/ > > [2] JACK Audio Connection Kit > http://jackaudio.org/ > > [3] ALSA, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture > http://www.alsa-project.org/ > > [4] libsndfile, C library for reading and writing > files containing sampled sound > http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/ > > [5] LADSPA, Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API > http://www.ladspa.org/ > > [6] libvorbis (enc, file), Ogg Vorbis audio compression > http://xiph.org/vorbis/ > > [7] libmad, High-quality MPEG audio decoder > http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/ > > [8] libsamplerate, The secret rabbit code, C library > for audio sample rate conversion > http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/ > > [9] librubberband, Rubber Band Audio Time Stretcher, > an audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting library > http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/ > > [10] liblo, Lightweight OSC implementation > (needed for DSSI GUI support) > http://liblo.sourceforge.net/ > > [11] DSSI, an API for soft synth plugins with custom user interfaces > http://dssi.sourceforge.net/ > > [12] VST SDK, Steinberg's Virtual Studio Technology (see README.VST) > http://www.steinberg.net/ > > [13] QjackCtl - JACK Qt GUI Interface > http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net > > [14] GNU General Public License > http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html > > [15] Cakewalk (by Roland), powerful and easy-to-use tools > for Windows-based music and sound production > http://www.cakewalk.com/ > > > Cheers && Enjoy. > -- > rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:31:05 +0200 > From: schoappied <schoappied@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <488062D9.7090407@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Mark Knecht wrote: >>> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to >>> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat? >>> >> >> 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the >> bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy. >> >> >> > That's a good point... what is good for practising bass... > > Maybe this one. It got nice reviews and they have extra emphasis on the > bass.. > > http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php > > > mmhh > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:11:50 -0500 > From: The Other <sstubbs@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1216386710.3792.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Yamaha RH-5Ma monitor headphones. Around $50 US. > > Semi-closed cup design, so you can ride your bicycle. > Weight 5.8oz > Sensitivity 98dB/mW > Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz > > Works for me. > > Stephen. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:53 -0700 > From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: headphones > To: schoappied <schoappied@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <5bdc1c8b0807180647o4701487di1180ce2fc488beee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:31 AM, schoappied <schoappied@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>>> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to >>>> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat? >>>> >>> >>> 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the >>> bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy. >>> >>> >>> >> That's a good point... what is good for practising bass... >> >> Maybe this one. It got nice reviews and they have extra emphasis on the >> bass.. >> >> http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php >> > > I think there are too many issues here to pick one out by looking at > web pages. A number of folks have given you suggestions for headphones > that would more or less meet you 50 euro criteria. The issue is that > not only do your headphones need to sound good, they need to feel good > if you're going to wear them for extended amounts of time. You're not > really going to figure this out without finding someplace where you > can try a few pair out so go look for that. > > You might also check out the 'Best Headphones' section of your web > site for their guidance. They like a Grado model in that price range > and their frequency response chart for the Grado does look better, at > least to my eyes. > > Also, I was reading about their favorite headphone, a Denon model, and > they made the point that it doesn't sound all that good with portable > music devices. Only once they match it with a high end headphone amp > does it really shine. Now, my point is NOT that you should buy a high > end amp, but that you need to listen to the headphones you are > interested in using the same equipment you intended to drive them > with. > > Anyway, enough talk. Go listen, make sure the sound is reasonable, and > then buy a set and work with them. I've made the point on this list a > few times that I bought a $1000 set of studio monitors over Ebay. Good > reviews, folks liked them. They arrived and I hated the sound, but I'd > spent my money. I was disappointed for a couple of months, but over > time I both got used to their sound and also got educated in placing > them more effectively. Now I actually like their sound and do good > mixes on them, but it wasn't that way in the beginning. > > Cheers, > Mark > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > End of Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 17, Issue 25 > ************************************************ > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user