That's a pity I actually chose the Firebox over other devices because of I thought that presonus were playing nice with the linux audio community. Maybe I should write a nice letter and email. Danni On Wednesday 13 February 2008 19:27:23 Pieter Palmers wrote: > Hartmut Noack wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Pieter Palmers schrieb: > >> Hartmut Noack wrote: > >> > >> Please don't advertise using ffado towards unexperienced users. > > > > Allright - this I understand also but if users with some skill use it it > > generates feedback that you might have a use for? And everybody is well > > aware, that there is no support for an unreleased software. Plus: if > > others share their experience with ffado, it can help you a lot to build > > a documentation. And: if people out there use their interfaces with > > Linux it could make some HW-vendors think about sending you their boxes > > for testing. > > > >> We can't > >> cope with the RTFM type of support that would generate. > > > > And you dont need to - everybody, that does not understand, that unpaid > > devs do not have the time to offer support for a software that is > > labeled experimental/unsupported can be savely ignored I guess... > > Unfortunately this is not what my experience is. A lot of users are > disappointed if you tell them that they are on their own since the > software is experimental. > > >> FFADO is > >> currently only for users that already sort-of know what they are doing, > >> and who we don't have to help setting up their system. > > > > But I am glad to offer help by spreading my experience with the > > software. I dare to say, that I am some sort of a user, that knows, what > > he does but still it took me about 2 h to find out, that the stuff in > > test/ is so important and can do such tricks like switching sync - a > > feature, that is absolutely vital, since with it I can have 6 > > In-channels with my Firebox instead of 4... > > At this moment the project's strategy is to get a release out ASAP with > support for the devices of cooperative vendors. The idea is that it's > too cumbersome to support devices we don't have access to. Having a > released will hopefully accelerate vendor support for us. Unfortunately > for you Presonus is not on the 'supportive vendors' list yet. > > > wich does not work btw ;-) > > > > $ ./progs/libffado/tests/test-ffado -n 1 SetClockSource 80 > > > > Type: Sync Syt Match , Id: 80, Valid: 1, Active: 0, Description: > > Sync Stream Input > > Type: Compound Syt Match, Id: 79, Valid: 1, Active: 0, Description: Syt > > Match > > Type: Internal , Id: 78, Valid: 1, Active: 1, Description: > > Internal (CSP) > > set clock source to 80 > > Could not set clock source > > > > it worked for ID 79 but with no usable effect. > > > > Anybody out there who knows what could be wrong? > > Judging from the output, the firebox doesn't support the standardized > method of selecting the sync source. Which is very unfortunate since > that means we need info from presonus to figure out how it should be done. > > What might work is that you have a valid spdif source connected before > you start jack, or maybe before you power up the firebox. It might > auto-select SPDIF when there's a valid signal. I know the quatafire > works like this. > > >> Keep in mind that all time spent on support is not spent on development. > > > > Thanks a lot for your great work - freeBoB works just great for me and I > > respect your policy regarding support for ffado. All I want is to help > > others, that feel a strong itch to use their machines with Linux but > > decide to do not, because they cannot alter settings like clock-source. > > The settings and configuration part of ffado is the section that needs > the vendor support the most. It's sort off a chicken and egg problem. As > I mentioned before, our current strategy is to focus on devices that we > have access to, in order to get things moving. FFADO might (partially) > work with other devices since it's designed to be as broad as possible. > But it might not, and then you're sort-off on your own. On the long run > things should resolve themselves. The best thing you can do is harass > the vendors a bit such that they realize (think?) we're not a bunch of > insignificant freaks. I've been advising strategy this a lot over the > last year and I'm starting to see the results of that. > > Getting a decent (released) version is a real priority since I'll > probably be visiting the Musikmesse in Frankfurt again this year, and I > really want to have something solid there. Face-to-face communication > with the vendors should work better than email. > > > Greets, > > Pieter > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user -- Have a place for everything and keep the thing somewhere else; this is not advice, it is merely custom. -- Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
