-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cesare Marilungo schrieb: > Paul Davis wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 14:33 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote: >> >> >>> So one might call me a zelot - I am with Linux because it is GNU. And I >>> dislike to have interactive applications running, that do not fit into >>> the free ecosystem of GNU/Linux. So I think solutions like LV2 need much >>> more attention then they get now. >>> >> >> >From who? The non-zealots don't seem to care. The zealots don't seem to >> be writing the NI plugins :) >> >> --p > VST plugins (especially soft synths) are designed to be limited. > Especially those who emulate old synthesizers are mostly all the same. > The only difference is in the GUI (and obviously in the limited set of > oscillators, filters and so on of that particular synth). While I dont think, that this is 100% the case, agree with you - there are myriads of VST-synths that follow the stupid insulting "You do not need to learn anything or to know anything - get our fine software and click your hit with ease!"-philosophy. Thus the ongoing discussion in the computer-music-scene about "How in the world can we achieve some originality?" It is quite funny to read advices like "after you pimped up a track with NI-plugs play it through 2 fender-guitar amps and record this with microphones to avoid to let it sound the same as all the 10000+ other tracks out there pimped up with NI-plugins." > no motivation, since I can fire up csound and create any kind of sound I > would imagine with a bunch of lines. Of course I don't have the shiny > graphical interfaces with rendered knobs. Instead I have unlimited > possibilities (as much oscillators as I want, connected in any possible > way, filters, effects, and so on). ... > bunch of lines in csound than using virtual patch cords. The main reason > to have virtual patch cords is marketing. I think there must be a way in between if Linux audio shall gain a relevant place in the music-scene. There is nothing wrong about having a nice, intuitive interface to a versatile sound-modeling system. I never managed to get c-sound working very good for me since I muster take the time to learn a complex programming language to get some sounds. I use Alsa Modular Synth, ZynaddSubFX, Specimen and modular patches routed with jack to get what I want. MicroComputer is just great also. > but they perceive commercial software as better, because of its value in > money. Many think so but not all - I am quite sure, that musicians are ready to adapt a free system, if they see, that it provides tools they need to do what they want to do. Marketing brainwash like "you need software XY to get a decent synth-sound" does work on a majority though.... best regs HZN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH2+ZB1Aecwva1SWMRAj7MAJ9SiS+/OYrthcvZiv78a/GUmXom4ACcCQrH 6UD/vpcyBxlckgqut1jYmwQ= =PVP+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
