Pieter Palmers wrote: > > Another thought is "why is the almost equally closed OSX more accepted > than Windows?" > Because CoreAudio works, it works very well indeed, and you don't have to think about it. To be very honest, even though I do believe in the importance of FOSS, the main reasons I am trying to use Linux to create music are practical ones: 1. I've had truly terrible experiences with windows; 2. I can't afford a mac. In other words, if I had a spanking new mac right now I would spend most of my time using that and leave linux for when I had a few spare moments. Looking at my (non-)workflow yesterday, it is clear to me that the most time-wasting problems I am having are with jack. I start jack, I open the various clients, I plug them into each other and I start working. Then jack boots some of its clients off, or even crashes, and I have to start again. Time spent setting up jack etc: 90% Time doing productive work: 10% The problem is not nearly as bad if I don't have much connected to jack, which is one of the reasons I find myself using an integrated windows DAW in wine. But I still need to run some external soft synths, but then I get these stability problems. Admittedly I am using jack from svn because some other things which I have needed to build from svn have jack from svn as a dependency, but things weren't really a whole lot better even when I was using the official ubuntu deb. Things weren't getting booted off as much, but horrible distortions would creep in that would only go away when I disconnected or killed something. I have no choice but to go the mac route. Whether I then choose to use jack on that mac is still going to depend not only on whether it is reliable but also on whether it can endure suspend/hibernate or suspend/resume cycles. I would still like to be able to farm out some of the work to cheap linux boxes, but again, that depends on whether jack is up to the job. I know this is not something anyone really wants to hear, particularly since jack is already in the process of being completely redesigned (jackdmp), but it is the limitations of jack that are the biggest obstacles to FOSS being adopted in the pro-audio world. Unless jack is fixed (or extended) so that it can recover from errors (including letting its latency be adjusted on the fly), not even the fanciest additional features in the world will make your application suitable for pro-audio use. To an extent you can forget about windows. The real challenge for Linux and FOSS pro-audio is to win the trust and respect of mac users. Macs are great tools for musicians. Windows gets used because it is cheaper. Imagine studios with heterogenous mac/linux setups; easy-to-use and intuitive tools combined with serious budget-priced processing power. Jack (once its problems have been dealt with) will allow you to route signals absolutely any way you like. X-forwarding or utilities such as synergy will enable you to control what you are doing. Open-source licensing makes it possible to conceive of applications runnign on a mac distributing their work to linux-based realtime render farms. The only real advantage of windows is that it can do a bit of everything. There's no point using it if you can do everything by other means. Robert _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
