On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:24:15 bradley newton haug wrote: > you can try all you want to 'fix it in the mix' but you can't polish a > turd. If you can't play, no engineering on the planet will save you. > > In your opinion, of course. My own opinion is that production and > > > arrangement are more important to the impact of a piece than the > > skill of its players, with composition being the most important of > > all. You'll say I'm wrong, and you will be wrong. > > watch a high school shakespeare rendition sometime. > > > But neither of our opinions matter to people who are looking at Linux > > audio tools and finding them lacking. Saying "That feature that I've > > never heard of sucks, and if you use it, your style of music sucks" > > doesn't come off as an indictment of commercialism so much as it > > resembles sour grapes. > > if you have to step input your music and rely on groove quant to make it > sound > 'real' you are speaking from a massive musical disadvantage. We've been > making music > for tens of thousands of years, it seems to me you're the one blaming your > tools. > > > If you're happy with Linux audio being as limited as a glorified tape > > recorder, that's fine, but some of us have higher ambitions. > > again, if you can't record music with a 'record' and 'stop' button. > Nothing can really help you. Not so, better musicians can help. Hey, basically, at this point, musically, I might be able to write some lyrics. That's about it. If I am lucky. On a good day. But I have ideas in my head with no good way to get them out. Can't get a tune out of my head vocally. Can't play, though I keep trying in a low key way to learn. Any natural gifts I have seem to be in other areas. So, if I can find tools to help me get my ideas out of me and into a form where others who can play and sing can more easily run with them, I think those tools might just be welcome. Granted, the recordings of any music I might make that way may leave a lot to be desired, but I don't see why they could not serve as the germ for something better. > > Can linux replace a windows or OSX rig that a schmuck can load up, slap > some loops on, use factory presets on > their softsynths and press a magic button to fix their amateurish keyboard > noodlings? > > no I dream of something that I could sing known songs to and that could then "calibrate" to my poor voice (I can't carry a tune) and then adjust the pitch to match the known notes.... Then, look for patterns in how I am off and learn my failings... Then, listen to new, unknown, tunes and adjust those according to the learned patterns. And then notate the melody. Then I could listen to that and see if it is what is in my head, let me adjust it on screen. Then sing again and match the now known melody... Not a bad dream. Perhaps some day... Or perhaps some day something may click inside my head and I might learn to sing. > > can linux be used to make music? yes > > > -bradley newton haug > > > Rob all the best, drew _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user