On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:29:56 -0000 (WET) "Rui Nuno Capela" <rncbc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, December 11, 2007 14:58, Dave Phillips wrote: > > Found on a Cakewalk docs site : > > > > > > *Groove Quantize* > > > > > > Groove Quantize allows you to change the "feel" of an existing > > performance. This is especially handy for spicing up step-entered MIDI > > data or performances that need tight, groovin' timing. The best way to > > learn how to use Groove Quantize is by experimentation. Other than the > > Groove Source itself, the settings that will effect Groove Quantize the > > most are the Resolution, Strength Duration, Strength Time, and Strength > > Velocity. > > > > So now we all know. > > > > yes, i've used cakewalk pro audio "groove-quantize" midi effect once > before. the way i understand it, you first preset an existing midi pattern > as your chosen groove style, or so-called. groove-quantization is then the > process in which an arbitrary midi sequence is quantized or made more or > less similar to that preset style pattern in regard to onsets, velocity, > duration, etc. in short, to have similar "feel". > > otoh, there's also another midi effect, called "swing-quantize", being > fundamentally different. here, iirc, the quarters are moved back and > forward to sound like triplets and/or vice-versa. > > it is my understanding (and i can be wrong) that most hardware like the > akai mpcs, the roland grooveboxes et al. has it called "groove-quantize" > but in fact is a form of "swing-quantize", at least according to > cakewalk's definition. > > cheers I can't help thinking this just replaces one form of mechanisation with another. Even when recording step-time I have all forms of grid locking turned *off*. Notes are very rarely actually on the allotted beat. For preference I'll input via a MIDI keyboard, and if the part is particularly difficult I'll play maybe just 4 bars, then rinse and repeat. Doing this I've learned to recognise the pattern various rhythms produce in a matrix editor, which is useful in it's own right. Unless you're doing some techno stuff I regard any form of quantisation as an admission of failure. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
