Here's a simple idea to help with some kind of guide track for collab songs, particularly for the experimental Subversion repo but also perhaps generally. If the core parts of a song like tempo and key, chorus verse bridge etc, are mapped out in a MIDI file with just about any MIDI sequencer then we could use the plain text version of that SMF (Standard Midi File/Format?) to checkout and commit to the SVN repo. http://midicomp.opensrc.org/ -> midicomp-0.0.2.tar.gz The idea would be that this MIDI track is specifically NOT part of song itself, so it doesn't become chock full of endless MIDI note tweaks, but remains fairly simple and acts as a guide track that when converted to binary MIDI format actually plays back simple parts using voice 0/1 (piano), however, it's most important role is as a precise editable TEXT guide for the song. So, as a simple "standard" it should always be called by the same filename and always play back using the first voice (piano). So in the svn repo, if anyone creates a new folder (essentially a new project) and checks in a file called "guide.txt" (with an optional guide.mid) then anyone else has at least a baseline (key, tempo) to start from and can manually edit the guide.txt (or use a good midi sequencer with comments) and thereby "guide" how the song evolves in a language that maps to real music as opposed to awkward words and discussion about the song layout or structure (useful but not very musically precise). Here is an example of the plain text version of an SMF... MFile 1 1 384 MTrk 000:00:000 Meta SeqName "Track 1" 000:00:000 Tempo 500000 000:00:000 TimeSig 4/4 32 99 000:00:000 On ch=1 note=c4 vol=70 000:00:096 On ch=1 note=c4 vol=0 000:00:096 On ch=1 note=d4 vol=70 000:00:192 On ch=1 note=d4 vol=0 000:00:192 On ch=1 note=e4 vol=70 000:00:288 On ch=1 note=e4 vol=0 000:00:288 On ch=1 note=f4 vol=70 000:01:000 On ch=1 note=f4 vol=0 000:01:000 On ch=1 note=g4 vol=70 000:01:096 On ch=1 note=g4 vol=0 000:01:096 On ch=1 note=a4 vol=70 000:01:192 On ch=1 note=a4 vol=0 000:01:192 On ch=1 note=b4 vol=70 000:01:288 On ch=1 note=b4 vol=0 000:01:288 On ch=1 note=c5 vol=70 000:02:000 On ch=1 note=c5 vol=0 000:02:000 On ch=1 note=d5 vol=70 000:02:096 On ch=1 note=d5 vol=0 000:02:096 On ch=1 note=c5 vol=70 000:02:192 On ch=1 note=c5 vol=0 000:02:192 On ch=1 note=b4 vol=70 000:02:288 On ch=1 note=b4 vol=0 000:02:288 On ch=1 note=a4 vol=70 000:03:000 On ch=1 note=a4 vol=0 000:03:000 On ch=1 note=g4 vol=70 000:03:096 On ch=1 note=g4 vol=0 000:03:096 On ch=1 note=f4 vol=70 000:03:192 On ch=1 note=f4 vol=0 000:03:192 On ch=1 note=e4 vol=70 000:03:288 On ch=1 note=e4 vol=0 000:03:288 On ch=1 note=d4 vol=70 001:00:000 On ch=1 note=d4 vol=0 001:00:000 Meta TrkEnd TrkEnd --markc _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user