Thanks Frank! This is a great bit of deconstructionalist writing in itself. I found it enormously inspiring. cheers tim /|\ Frank Pirrone wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: Any lyrics please? > From: > Frank Pirrone <frankpirrone@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: > Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:16:13 -0400 > To: > julien lociuro <julien.lociuro@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: > julien lociuro <julien.lociuro@xxxxxxxxx> > > > julien lociuro wrote: >> Thanks for this. >> I like your way of thinking..it seems like you do this very naturally.. >> I don't know..I think you have to have the appropriate mindset.. >> >> But I don't really understand your process..you thought of a >> relationship.."we","sough","motive pebble"..and wrote those four >> lines??And the idea would be to have those on a wiki..so everybody >> could change them? >> That would be great.. >> -- >> julien > Yeah, that's pretty much it Julien. I mean, you can't string lyrics, > poetry, or prose together without a story or scenario in mind. > So, I sat there for a moment and thought I'd take the easy way out and > use the general image of a "relationship" as the context. > > Then I thought about what kind of images I might draw from - and I'll > close with a few examples both to make a point and maybe serve as a > starting point - and began to feel the struggles and sometimes common > yet other times divergent paths a relationship takes. > > Think about the less corny ones. First one that just popped into my > mind, and for some personal reasons, was "It's Too Late Baby" by Carole > King. Long time ago - early 70s. Here's the essence of the death of a > relationship due to nothing more than its running a commonly seen > course. One person gets in deeper while the other drifts away. In the > process awkwardness and pain grow until it's got to end...now. > > Anyway, I thought of an image I've had before, in a number of contexts - > including technology training where expertise radiates out from a core > of folks inseminated with ideas and skills until it reaches and affects > everyone in the situation. > > With this concentric circles metaphor, something happens to start > thoughts or events into motion - that motive pebble (a kind of strange > term that I've never used or thought of before but again I kept to be > true to the process and 'cause I sort of liked it). Here's a concrete > example: Troubled relationship, woman goes off on a vacation, meets > someone but nothing more than that at first, returns, mentions it to man > - maybe just to be open an honest, maybe to give him that fateful clue, > the ripples of this encounter eventually impact everything between them > and in their hearts until it's...too late baby. > > The bit about the impulse coming from the depths of what was sought is > something of a cheat for meter and rhyme, but fundamentally a coherent > piece of the story. Something tiny, from deep feelings, deep fears, or > even the subconscious can in a moment assert itself - something calls it > up or sets it off. Here's a concrete example of that: Couple in a > troubled relationship are at an amusement park, and something happens - > he does it or she does it - and suddenly an awareness occurs or > concretizes resulting in those fateful ripples. Maybe the ball toss to > win a stuffed bear reminds one of them about an earlier relationship, > and this recollection changes the perception of the current relationship > leading to that too late baby moment. > > Yikes! I've never actually intellectualized all this before, but it's a > very interesting question - what is a mechanism for the creative > process. I've always considered myself a problem solver and a creative > person - music, computers, programming, committee work, so at least for > myself I could if not a book then write a short pamphlet on how it works. > > Please excuse any appearance of pretentiousness here. I'm just trying > to offer whatever help I can. My comments will be beneath those who've > gone farther but may be helpful to those who haven't gone as far. > > Finally, some other images relating to thoughts, feelings, philosophy: > We're such social beings, but so imprisoned within ourselves. Like > islands, but surrounded by our boundaries instead of water. > You can never know what I mean when I say I love watermelon, and can > never know how a m7b5 chord makes me feel, or exactly what kind of buzz > I get from a perfectly formed piece of code. > We can never get closer than bumping together (not us guys Julien...I'm > thinking of some of the lovely young things at school) or maybe a little > physically "closer" during sex - nothing crude intended - but, no matter > how desperately I want to crawl inside the very essence and being and > mind of someone I love...I can't. > > What we have is grossly limited language and nuance, gestures and > touching. However, everything, every damned thing is translated by the > other - filtered through her experience and consciousness and > perception. Or as the Animals once said, "Oh Lord, please don't let me > be misunderstood." Actually, once before I'm off this mortal coil, I'd > love to be UNDERSTOOD. > > So, were islands, close sometimes but separated, demarked and delineated > by many degrees of isolation - gender, age, experiences, personality, > intellect, soul and spirit. If only our essence (whatever in hell that > would be) could drift outside ourselves and literally merge so that we > could truly, oh god I'm going to type this..., grok each other. Her > eyes become my eyes, and her fingertips one with mine. I can feel > cosmic by meditating, or ingesting certain natural and man-made > substances, but for all the times I've called out to someone with only > thoughts, I've never heard an answer. > > Whew...spooky shit. I've got to grab a couple Popsicles and the > Newsweek that just came and go outside and hit the pool - set a record > today here in Western New York following a glorious week and a half in > turn following a positively glorious Summer. > > Anyway, Julien, if you're still reading down this far, and anyone else > who's been thinking through this stuff - if you can't write a song out > of all that crap, I have truly failed! > > Frank _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
