On Saturday 01 September 2007 08:17:18 chris beagles wrote: > On 9/1/07, chris beagles <christhemonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 9/1/07, thomas fisher <studio1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Friday 31 August 2007 23:52:33 david wrote: > > > > thomas fisher wrote: > > > > > On Friday 31 August 2007 01:09:07 david wrote: > > > > >> Steve McConville wrote: > > > > >>>> I am curious - has there been any move to modernize the MIDI > > > > >>>> connectivity standards to include USB or Ethernet? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> There has been - there is a midi over usb standard. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Midi is a poor starting point for modernisation not just beacause > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >>> the pragmatic compromises mentioned above but also because it is > > > > >>> wholly unlayered (the spec covers everything from the physical up > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >>> the presentational layer), > > > > >> > > > > >> That could be separated fairly easily, I'd think. > > > > >> > > > > >>> and has it's expansion room squeezed into > > > > >>> the SysEx ghetto. > > > > >> > > > > >> That's a big problem. > > > > >> > > > > >>> Midi over ethernet would be even less pleasant, and > > > > >>> less logical, than doing RS-232 over ethernet. > > > > >> > > > > >> Only reason I mentioned Ethernet is that there are analog musical > > > > >> instruments around already that can transmit their audio via > > > > > > Ethernet > > > > > > > >> (instead of analog audio cables). > > > > >> > > > > >>> OSC has fixed these problems and should have been built into > > > > >>> everything since the mid-90s but so many people have invested > > > > >>> time > > > > > > in > > > > > > > >>> learning MIDI that they wouldn't countenance working with > > > > >>> anything > > > > >>> > > > > >>> else. It looks like RESTful web services may eventually replace > > > > > > both, > > > > > > > >>> however. > > > > >> > > > > >> I suspect that MIDI won't be budged. It is a standard in the music > > > > >> world, and I doubt that many musicians care about it's > > > > >> limitations. > > > > > > They > > > > > > > >> may not even be aware of them. MIDI certainly keeps time in a lot > > > > > > finer > > > > > > > >> increments than I'm able to play - that's why sequencer programs > > > > > > have > > > > > > > >> quantization functions! > > > > > > > > > > How does the " XG " extension play into this? How proprietary is > > > > > it? > > > > > > > > I don't know - and each week I play a Yahama PSR-740 keyboard with > > > > Yamaha's XG. I've recorded some MIDIs using it, and they open just > > > > > > fine > > > > > > > in Rosegarden and play in fluidsynth. Or maybe you're talking about > > > > something else? > > > > > > I do not know either, and was asking in the context of the MIDI > > > discussion. I > > > have always assumed that XG was an extension to the standard MIDI > > > specification. And again I always assumed that an interpretative > > > function > > > existed somewhere in software layers either within a driver or in a > > > filter. > > > As with your Yamaha PSR-740 XG are all functions / prsets & ?? > > > interpreted by > > > the Linux MIDI? I am only guessing how all of this works. > > > Tom > > > > You could have a look for yourself, the spec seems to be freely > > available: > > http://www.yamaha.co.uk/xg/reading/pdf/xg_spec.pdf > > > > Chris > > Ok, my bad, should have followed the link on wikipedia before sharing it... > It doesn't seem to be available anymore. > > Chris > http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm This may not be the most current specification as of 09/2007 http://www.ibiblio.org/emusic-l/info-docs-FAQs/MIDI-doc/index.html tutorial http://swami.resonance.org/trac instrument fonts editor http://freepats.opensrc.org/sf2/ Sound Fonts Creative Labs http://swami.resonance.org/trac/wiki/DLS Downloadable Sound Fonts MIDI assoc http://swami.resonance.org/trac/wiki/GigaSampler Tascam Gigastudio http://sounds.resonance.org/patches.py Free Instrument database Hope this helps _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user
