El Mié 04 Abr 2007 15:50, Charles Linart escribió: | .>>To put it bluntly if every morning you were | .>>being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives | on a .>>tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would | eventually learn .>>to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike | the sound of your .>>alarm clock. | | Speaking from personal experience, I have to disagree. A life in | harmony with nature, directed by nature's rhythm is a happy and | beautiful life. Never been happier than during the period of my life | when the rooster was my alarm clock -- never gotten up so early, | either. The reason the alarm clock is so disturbing is that it throws | us off that groove. | | We are a part of nature and any creative expression is a reference to | that primal connection. Good point, so: there is a primal connection really? Also, factories were made by humans, and so they are a part of nature, all is part of nature... so, factories, cities, cars, etc., have a primal connection too? | Maybe that's why music made by human beings | can be so pleasing compared to music made by machines. Sometimes the | MIDIfied stuff just sounds like a big, glorified clock to me. Jajaja, you are right, all those MIDI ringtones from celular phones too... it's not so beautiful... | On 4/4/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@xxxxxx> wrote: | > > Marcos Guglielmetti escribe: | > > > Maybe noise is beauty... I dont know... the sounds of the ocean are | > > > like noice, just like the wind too... I think this is beautiful, | > > > but, because | > > | > > I | > > | > > > dont like the car's, bus, planes, trains, etc., sounds, I think | > > > there is almost no beauty into the industrial age sounds (factories, | > > > etc.) | > | > It seems likely that you don't like these sounds because of their | > psychoacoustic association. To put it bluntly if every morning you were | > being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives | > on a tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would | > eventually learn to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike | > the sound of your alarm clock. All sounds we are aware of are simply a | > combination of sine tones perceptible by our ears. Therefore, the only | > difference between a sound of an ocean and a steam engine is ultimately | > their "recipe." If you consider all sounds on this, much more equal | > plane, then it becomes rather apparent that all sounds have beauty that | > simply needs to be uncovered regardless of their source. This art is | > also known as acousmatic music (or a sound removed from its source). | > | > > You've discovered the point. Men are capable of creating beauty but | > > unfortunately nature is much more capable. The harder you try to | > | > My take is that art is our attempt at emulating nature and realizing our | > ineptness (pointlessness?) in matching its beauty. For this reason, we | > tend to use art as our response (perception?) to nature. In this | > respect, man-made contraptions are just another extension of nature and | > its laws. | > | > Ico | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Linux-audio-user mailing list | > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user | | _______________________________________________ | Linux-audio-user mailing list | Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * CD Download: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/) * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode * http://autosus.wordpress.com/ «No te tomes en serio nada que no te haga reír» [un amigo de E. Galeano] _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user
