El Mié 04 Abr 2007 16:49, Chuckk Hubbard escribió: | On 4/4/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@xxxxxx> wrote: | > > Marcos Guglielmetti escribe: | > > > Maybe noise is beauty... I dont know... the sounds of the ocean are | > > > like noice, just like the wind too... I think this is beautiful, | > > > but, because | > > | > > I | > > | > > > dont like the car's, bus, planes, trains, etc., sounds, I think | > > > there is almost no beauty into the industrial age sounds (factories, | > > > etc.) | > | > It seems likely that you don't like these sounds because of their | > psychoacoustic association. Yes: that's right | > To put it bluntly if every morning you were | > being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives | > on a tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would | > eventually learn to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike | > the sound of your alarm clock. All sounds we are aware of are simply a | > combination of sine tones perceptible by our ears. Therefore, the only | > difference between a sound of an ocean and a steam engine is ultimately | > their "recipe." If you consider all sounds on this, much more equal | > plane, then it becomes rather apparent that all sounds have beauty that | > simply needs to be uncovered regardless of their source. This art is | > also known as acousmatic music (or a sound removed from its source). | | I don't buy that. jajaja | Factories and machinery have vibrations created and | enforced by hundreds of forces working at different rates and in | different directions, caused by objects that were assembled with very | little regard for the sound they made. And human exploitation... so, if it is unethical to explode the human, I dont like the sound of the exploitation, so I dont like the sounds of the industrial age: it's that simple to me. Also, the cars, etc., and the petroleum (oil) industry are destroying "our" nature and our society, so, I dont like the cars, etc., sounds, because the pollute "our" environment. So I like the bird's sounds, because they dont destroy "our" nature and "our" society... | A song bird actually hears | what it is doing, and makes patterns based on the sound. Sure, he is smart ;-), more than humans maybe | -Chuckk -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * CD Download: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/) * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode * http://autosus.wordpress.com/ «No te tomes en serio nada que no te haga reír» [un amigo de E. Galeano] _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/linux-audio-user