> What dismays me is the lack of any energy from > *outside* the LA community directed *towards* the community. And > considering some of the heavy weights connected to Linux today, I really > have to wonder why this status remains quo. Example: IBM does audio > hardware, they also do Linux in a big way, and they have real industry > clout. IBM can offer real material assistance to Linux audio devs, but > afaik they don't. Why not ? They can deal with SCO's nonsense but can't > fund a Linux audio project ? While I'm pleased that IBM does support the > general community, I have to wonder just how aware they are of the LA > communities. Someone get our friend Dave a cup off coffee and a paper sack! :) (Only intended with the utmost of professional affection of course) Slight tangent but...I'm good like that! :) Please consider the following... Musicians in general, be them classically trained from the highest schools the world has to offer. to the 12 yr old kid that can do Yngwie Malmsteen in his sleep, are not typically taken seriously from the "early years" ! Yeah...early years! Linux Audio has been steaming along for awhile now, we know that. But because it does not leap out and tussle the corporate profit monster to the ground, it is hardly considered serious business to the masses that have the moola to push it to the heights! And some very talented musicians struggled for 15 - 20 yrs before they "made it"?? Point: This is not necessarily about software, consensus and / or what the collective of LAU loves; Long before software / computers...blah, bluh, blah. There have been many scuffles before now with one developer(s) or organization throwing rocks at another in the Open Source community. The down side to that...it's hard to get two devs to agree on something...the upside? It's hard to get 2 devs to agree on something!!! :) There is freedom! And usually that only exists when someone DOES NOT own your a$$~ Long after the dust settles on this issue, there will be another, and another, and another. LAU will grow, shrink, grow, etc. Linux Audio, as an alternative may *NEVER* take on the Goliath and be considered a "contender". But it *will* be there I suspect...developing, growing and being nurtured in a way that simply cant exist in the corporate environment(for long). Sorry LJ wont fund your fare Dave-O! You have put a lot of work into LAU related and written much to enhance the state of Linux Audio in general. Now...back to that bloody corporate thing that actually pays my bills! Russell