Not to mention xmms incompatibility with Beryl-like windowing/desktop stuff. Now, after playing a CD with xmms I want to play some tunes from the har drive. So I open the m3u file and after that xmms redoes all the connections to jack, bypassing the jamin connections I made. And xmms makes a lot of connections to the default alsa_pcm device )in this case supporting a M-Audio 1010LT). So I have to unconnect all of them and then connect xmms again to jamin. Is there a jack compatible ogg/mp3 player out there that does not do that ? Better yet, is there a xine jack plugin ? Cheers, Al