-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:31:37AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 00:02 -0500, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > On 29 Jan 2007 23:37:39 -0500, Michal Seta <mis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Max/MSP... well... I guess you should head the cycling74 way... but > > > then, it almost seems like every album in the > > > IDM/glitch/microsound/whatever style in the past 10 or so years was > > > done with Max/MSP. > > > > Max/MSP isn't available for Linux, is it? > > no. only jMax (which is not really compatible with Max, although it sort > of is) and pd (which seems at least as good as Max/MSP in almost every > way). > > IMHO, its still a real embarrasment to the entire family of miller > puckette-derived visual programming languages that the petty disputes > between each branch of the family tree have gone on for this long. i can > only hope that pd will continue to increase in popularity until > Cycling74 has no choice but to sit down and talk about how to get > everyone back in the same boat. not that likely, i think. > Heh, "embarassment"? We're all Linux users here. It's always fun to have a look at the Linux distribution family tree. Or the Unix family tree, that one's interesting too. Or the family tree of languages like lisp. Or of political or artistic movements. Most of us are musicians too, it's also fun to have a look at the family tree of the various styles/genres of music. To paraphrase a famous muppet: fork fork fork fork fork fork. I've found that petty disputes and arbitrary forks are common for almost every field of human endeavour. They tend to be fractals, splitting infinitely and recursively. Occasionally they merge or hit a dead-end, but I've found the overall trend is towards more diversity, not less. It's a subjective impression though. It may be one of those "half-full, half-empty" things, and I've no way to document or quantify it, so I'll just leave it at that. - -ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFwUCre8HF+6xeOIcRArOLAKCDZu7jIukkvgaru6QhOVgZMGUg3wCgnYYa Iz1J3elAMRcnzr8BnXH3cVQ= =njBO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
