I am using alsa drivers built right into the kernel, rather than modules. My Kubuntu system figures that my M-audio card is 0, and the Soundblaster is 1. I want to reverse that. Can I? The reason for this, is that many apps seem to be unable to play through the M-audio. I'm thinking it's because they use the OSS interface, and there is no OSS kernel option for the ice1712. Could that be true? Actually, after booting my new kernel, I find that there are no /dev/dsp* devices at all. No wonder the non-alsa apps don't work. Still, I checked OSS support, and support for the Live! card. Not sure why I don't have at least /dev/dsp0. Thanks, Tobiah