> David Baron wrote: >> Just installed it. A very creative but frustrating package. As with >> too many of these things, one must be able to read and that in >> English (or a few European languages?). Fine print abounds in what at >> first looks like a very sparse UI. >> >> The program abounds with objects and widgets. Some very creative and >> versatile, others frustratingly crude. Graphic objects like squares >> cannot be resized (nothing stops one from reprogramming them and then >> dutifully uploading the scalable versions for others to >> enjoy--smalltalk was once the rage.) >> * * * >>> > Apart from Alan Kay himself > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viewpoints_Research_Institute), take a > > look at the Viewpoint Research Board of Advisors: > > > > http://www.viewpointsresearch.org/about.html > > > > John Perry Barlow, Vint Cerf, Richard Dawkins, Doug Engelbart, Marvin > > Minsky, Nicholas Negroponte, Seymour Papert and so on. > > > > Doesn't any of these names ring a bell? Anyway, at VR, they're using > > and continuing the development of squeak. > > > > Did you know that you're making ridicule of a big chunk of the history > > of informatics? > > > > Ciao, > > > > c. > > Sorry. I've been harsh in my reply, with no true reasons to do so. > > I should have just said that maybe you've to give it another try. Or > investigate a bit more on the project. > > Sorry again. Accepted. No intent to ridicule anything or anyone. The beginning of this thread was Sottware sutiable for children and Squeak and Etoys recommended. Squeak is a programming environment which will run Etoys (which I did not find to install on it). It is fun, cute, allbeit out of date. Leave out kids that do not read fluently English--everything on linux is multilingual/unicode nowadays. For kids, a more symbolic interface could be used. I would like to see Etoys. I haven't touched smalltalk in the 26 years but may try some squeakie stuff sometime.
