Hi all, To add to the collision of music and game cultures going on in the other thread: http://www.pawfal.org/index.php?page=BetaBlocker It's not quite a game (you control it entirely with a gamepad), it's not quite a programming language (it's based on bits of assembler, forth and redcode) and it makes not quite music :) There is a movies of it in action at piksel 2006 on that page. cheers, dave