On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 06:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > This conversation is just silly and a waste of time. Just because > an ATI driver is on the machine doesn't mean you don't report a > problem with the with the kernel to Ingo. Yes, it does, if it's a binary only driver. Drivers are part of the kernel and if a closed source driver has been loaded the kernel cannot be debugged. This isn't my opinion, it's consensus on LKML. Bug reports from tainted kernels will be ignored. Lee