On Wednesday 24 May 2006 01:01, Mark Knecht was like: > I have not tried the pam enabled realtime methods as there doesn't > seem to be any value spending the time to do it just yet. I am, and I have to say I think there is value in it. I'm using the debianised patched PAM modules from RFA (thanks Eric!) so it took me all of 10 minutes to set up. I guess it's a bit more fiddly on Gentoo. -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim We are the people We've been waiting for.