Re: Re: DnB/Jungle tunes (Erik de Castro Lopo)

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Some of these are techno, some dnb, but I put up all my csd files here:
http://redfern.freezope.org/music

I'll be working on more, I don't think I used the beat-chopping on any
of these, so I'll try to get another example up with beat chopping.
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Re: DnB/Jungle tunes (Erik de Castro Lopo)
   2. Re: [Music] First track ? prog    rock instrumental (lanas)
   3. Re: [Music] First track ? prog rock instrumental (Mark Knecht)
   4. Re: Getting some hardware... (Carlo Capocasa)
   5. Re: Re: Getting some hardware... (Patrick Shirkey)
   6. Re: Getting some hardware... (Carlo Capocasa)
   7. Re: Re: Getting some hardware... (c)
   8. ecasound interactive mode (Paul Coccoli)
   9. Re: Re: Getting some hardware... (Lee Revell)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:17:06 +1000
From: Erik de Castro Lopo <mle+la@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Re: DnB/Jungle tunes
To: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Brian Redfern wrote:

> I did some dnb with csound, have to re-work it and post to the list,
> csound has a "beatchopping" algorithmn since 4.23 that's really cool.

Care to release the csound ORC and SCO files?

I've been wanting to mess with csound for ages, but getting a handle
on it is a rather daunting task.

Erik
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
  Erik de Castro Lopo
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
"I believe C++ instills fear in programmers, fear that the
interaction of some details causes unpredictable results. Its
unmanageable complexity has spawned more fear-preventing tools
than any other language, but the solution _should_ have been
to create and use a language that does not overload the
whole goddamn human brain with irrelevant details."
-- Erik Naggum


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 20:16:58 -0400
From: lanas <lanas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  [Music] First track ? prog      rock
        instrumental
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On Mon, 22 May 2006 18:25:39 +0100
Q <qb@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi !

> > It's OK, but for my own tastes, it revolves a bit too much around
> > the same.  Though I almost heard some Mellotron in there a bit
> > after the electric guitar kicks in ;-)  And of course, if there was
> > a voice somewhere in there that'd be great.

> Fair point, I suppose it is a bit monotonous â€" the same chord
> progression all the way through. I think I read an interview with the
> Floyd somewhere where they said they'd a bad habit of dragging one
> chord progression out for as long as they could, so maybe I've been
> listening to them too much and picked up their bad habits! I suppose
> I could drag it out to ten minutes if I really tried ;-)

My impression is that this style (i.e. repeating the same and building
on it) is hard to get accross if there's not something quite
grasping getting the listener.  Could be the mood, could be the music
hooks, the tension, etc...  So I find it's a hard style to do.  But
some do it.  PF was one.  Tangerine Dream were another.  Or take
Ravel's 'Bolero'. I was listening to Asturias' 'Brillant Streams'
yesterday which is also in the same vein.  But it's hard to get and
move the proper mood and getting and developing the tension all along
the way when things are basically repeating, I find.  But that's also
just me.  I'll try it when I'll get my setup made !

Cheers,

Al



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:35:38 -0700
From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  [Music] First track ? prog rock
        instrumental
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On 5/22/06, Q <qb@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Thanks for listening and for commenting. I'll have to read your post
> again in the morning – I'm too tired to get my head round it at the moment.
>
> My initial reaction though is Eeek! – I'm a bit worried now because I
> had considered it more or less finished and you suggest that it could do
> with more development!

Like I said, please don't over react to what I'm saying. Had you not
specifically suggested 'prog rock' in your initial post I probaby
wouldn't have said anything. However my normal playlist in Aqualung is
over 50 hours of prog rock. It's pretty much all I listen to. From
that standpoint, while I may or may not be qualified musically, at
least I feel in touch with the genre.

>
> BTW, I've never heard of Glass Hammer before so I shall have to look
> them up.

Interesting band. You might like them. I do. I buy my CD's directly
from the band actually. Check out their website for more info:

http://www.glasshammer.com/

Cheers,
Mark


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 02:36:06 +0200
From: Carlo Capocasa <capocasa@xxxxxxx>
Subject:  Re: Getting some hardware...
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> Yeah it's hard to really head bang when you have to worry about your
> geek bandmates laptop ;)

Get a geek band.



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:51:03 +0700
From: Patrick Shirkey <pshirkey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Re: Getting some hardware...
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Carlo Capocasa wrote:
>
>> Yeah it's hard to really head bang when you have to worry about your
>> geek bandmates laptop ;)
>
> Get a geek band.
>
>


Still the same prob. Better to become a DJ.

:-P

--
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Http://www.boosthardware.com
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========================================

"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 03:02:36 +0200
From: Carlo Capocasa <capocasa@xxxxxxx>
Subject:  Re: Getting some hardware...
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If there's one thing I'm going to do before I die it's become the
coolest, most famous musician I possibly can and lug around a laptop
with a really big penguin on it.

Geeks get some.



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:31:53 +0000
From: c <_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Re: Getting some hardware...
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On Tue May 23, 2006 at 03:02:36AM +0200, Carlo Capocasa wrote:
> If there's one thing I'm going to do before I die it's become the coolest, most famous musician I possibly can and lug around a laptop with a
> really big penguin on it.

is anyone giving away these stickers for free? the best i could find was a big pile of Gay-Flag^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HApple stickers from my IIGS/...


>
> Geeks get some.
>


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:34:52 -0400
From: "Paul Coccoli" <pcoccoli@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  ecasound interactive mode
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How do you add a second chain in ecasound in interactive mode?  I can
create one chain that reads a file for input and outputs to jack, but
if I try to add another chain I get the following:

ecasound ('h' for help)> c-add t2
(eca-control) WARNING: This operation requires that chainsetup is
... disconnected. Temporarily disconnecting...
- [ Engine exiting ] -----------------------------------------------------------
(eca-control-objects) Disconnecting chainsetup: "command-line-setup".
- [ Chainsetup disconnected ] --------------------------------------------------
(eca-control-objects) Added chains: t2.
(eca-chainsetup) Unable to connect: Chain "t2" is not valid. Following errors
... were detected:
(eca-chainsetup) Chain "t2" is not connected to any input. All chains must have
... exactly one valid input. (2.1-NO-CHAIN-INPUT)
(eca-chainsetup) Chain "t2" is not connected to any output. All chains
must have
... exactly one valid output. (2.2-NO-CHAIN-OUTPUT)
ERROR: Can't reconnect chainsetup.

Well, ok, so then I quit, restart with 1 chain again, THEN create new
input and output, and try to create a second chain:

ecasound ('h' for help)> ai-add jack_auto
(eca-control-objects) Added audio input "jack_auto".
ecasound ('h' for help)> ao-add jack_auto
(eca-control-objects) Added audio output "jack_auto".
ecasound ('h' for help)> c-add t2
(eca-control-objects) Added chains: t2.
ecasound ('h' for help)> c-list
t1,t2
ecasound ('h' for help)> start
(eca-chainsetup) Unable to connect: Chain "t2" is not valid. Following errors
... were detected:
(eca-chainsetup) Chain "t2" is not connected to any input. All chains must have
... exactly one valid input. (2.1-NO-CHAIN-INPUT)
(eca-chainsetup) Chain "t2" is not connected to any output. All chains
must have
... exactly one valid output. (2.2-NO-CHAIN-OUTPUT)
(eca-chainsetup) WARNING: Input "track1.wav" is not connected to any chain.
... (3.1-DISCON-INPUT)
(eca-chainsetup) WARNING: Output "jack_auto" is not connected to any chain.
... (3.2-DISCON-OUTPUT)
ERROR: Selected chainsetup cannot be connected. Can't perform requested action.

Hmm.  If a chain MUST have one valid input and output, but inputs and
outputs need to be connected to a chain, THEN ITS A PARADOX AND MY
HEAD EXPLODES!

Seriously, I'm tryin the most basic thing in the world and I can't do
it.  Maybe it's just too late at night...

paul


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:14:05 -0400
From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Re: Getting some hardware...
To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 02:36 +0200, Carlo Capocasa wrote:
> > Yeah it's hard to really head bang when you have to worry about your
> > geek bandmates laptop ;)
>
> Get a geek band.
>

Hey, I'm a geek, and I spill beer on things and break stuff all the
time!

Lee



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