On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 11:10:26PM +0200, Christoph Eckert ce-at-christeck.de |LAU| wrote: > > Computers count from zero. Always have, always will. > > yes, of course, I know. > > But it is possible to hide this in user interfaces. IMHO the machines > have to serve the humans, not the other way around. > > How many mails are you reading right now, 0 or 1 ;-) ? That doesn't matter. It's the difference between cardinal and ordinal numbers. Even in computers, cardinal numbers (those designating a quantity) use 0 for none and 1 for, well, 1. Ordinal numbers (those that number things sequentially) always begin at 0 for the first item, as far as the computer is concerned. Chuck