On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 10:14 +1000, Loki Davison wrote: > On 3/29/06, Dana Olson <dana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 16:26 -0600, Brian Dunn wrote: > > > Carlo Capocasa wrote: > > > > > > >Here's an incredibly simple trick I discovered to synthesize incredibly > > > >hard and groovy snare sounds... The typical THWACK that just makes the > > > >crowds move. > > > > > > > >You need nothing more than a noise source, one (yes one!) band pass > > > >filter and a flexible envelope. > > > > > > > >Hook up the source and your envelope and tune your snare with the band > > > >pass filters cutoff frequency and bandwidth (also known as CF and > > Q-factor). > > > > > > > >Then set up your envelope to have a "knee". If the volume graph for your > > > >typical snare envelope looks like this: > > > > > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >|_______ > > > > > > > >Make it look like this > > > > > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >| \ > > > >|_______________ > > > > > > > > > > > >The psychological effect is that the listener is 'punched' towards the > > > >knee with great force, and then gently released, constantly keeping him > > > >or her in that gentle musical trance place, while still being an > > > >extremely man-moving sound. It's great to help induce that 'dance > > > >trance' we pop musicians are all looking for for our shows. > > > > > > > >Actually, you can get the same effect with an extremely strong > > > >compressor; however, with this little trick you do the same thing and > > > >use no extra CPU power. > > > > > > > >Carlo > > > > > > > >PS: ZynAddSubFX is a great way too implement this; use a Free-Mode > > > >envelope and add an additional 'point' for the knee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you post your zyn patch somewhere? sounds interesting. > > > > I would like to hear it too. I'm very new, in fact uninitiated, to > > synthesis. Is there a good tutorial (for newbies!) somewhere for how > > to .. do it? > > > > ... > > > The sound on sound synth secrets are the best tutorials out there. > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb02/articles/synthsecrets0202.asp If > you want to look at a large range of synthed drums you can check out > smack. > > Loki Thanks! I've bookmarked the two links so far. I checked out Smack before (I think we talked about it before, as I wanted to package it for Ubuntu). I will check out more on that site to see about general synthesis. The problem is that I am short on time, heh. That's why I am so interested in a site for presets/templates, so we can all benefit from each other's work. Or that's how I spin it, when really I have pretty much nothing at the current time to share. I guess I need to sit down for a day and try figuring this stuff out. Dana
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