Frank Barknecht did a wonderful tutorial a few years back on how to do make drums using PD (no samples), also good basic intro to synthesis: http://footils.org/tut/pddrums/pddrums.html david On 3/28/06, Dana Olson <dana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 16:26 -0600, Brian Dunn wrote: > > Carlo Capocasa wrote: > > > > >Here's an incredibly simple trick I discovered to synthesize incredibly > > >hard and groovy snare sounds... The typical THWACK that just makes the > > >crowds move. > > > > > >You need nothing more than a noise source, one (yes one!) band pass > > >filter and a flexible envelope. > > > > > >Hook up the source and your envelope and tune your snare with the band > > >pass filters cutoff frequency and bandwidth (also known as CF and Q-factor). > > > > > >Then set up your envelope to have a "knee". If the volume graph for your > > >typical snare envelope looks like this: > > > > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >|_______ > > > > > >Make it look like this > > > > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >| \ > > >|_______________ > > > > > > > > >The psychological effect is that the listener is 'punched' towards the > > >knee with great force, and then gently released, constantly keeping him > > >or her in that gentle musical trance place, while still being an > > >extremely man-moving sound. It's great to help induce that 'dance > > >trance' we pop musicians are all looking for for our shows. > > > > > >Actually, you can get the same effect with an extremely strong > > >compressor; however, with this little trick you do the same thing and > > >use no extra CPU power. > > > > > >Carlo > > > > > >PS: ZynAddSubFX is a great way too implement this; use a Free-Mode > > >envelope and add an additional 'point' for the knee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you post your zyn patch somewhere? sounds interesting. > > I would like to hear it too. I'm very new, in fact uninitiated, to > synthesis. Is there a good tutorial (for newbies!) somewhere for how > to .. do it? > > ... > > As a side note, I hope that discussion of file-sharing or a > sample/preset database hasn't fallen by the wayside. This would be a > perfect time for such a thing! I have about 40GB of transfer per month > that we can use, but if it goes over... Then I'm SOL. But at least it > would be a start. If anyone knows of a website framework suited for such > things, using PHP/Perl & MySQL (this is what is on my host) then let me > know, and I could set it up. > > Dana > >