On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 17:18 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:55, Lee Revell wrote: > >On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 09:11 -0800, Maluvia wrote: > >> >Yes, and one such absolute value is "free speech". > >> > > >> >Lee > >> > >> Tell that to David Irving. > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4733820.stm > > > >Yes, it's unfortunate that he was locked up. Most Americans are > >appalled by it. Holocaust deniers are free to make idiots out of > >themselves in the US. > > > And in any other jurisdiction for that matter. The real problem becomes > evident when these people decide to re-write history in their own > warped view and pass it off as fact without a disclaimer that it just > their view. At which point those that did not live through it, and > witness it even if only vicariously as I did at the tender age of 10 or > 11, (I still can recall the pictures in the paper of the 'camps' as > they were liberated, showing near naked people who weighed maybe 60 > lbs, twasn't "purty" then and sure isn't now 61 years later) and then > become confused because they have no authoritative, guaranteed correct > version of history to reference in order to be fully aware that such > shamuses are to be treated as exactly that. The rantings of a > charlatan or mental defective. > > The real problem is when the people who come in contact with this sort > of writing, and because they see a conspiracy under every garbage can > lid they pass, begin to believe it, at which point no further > discussion is going to be fruitfull, rather like argueing with a > diehard PETA member. > > So one may as well just shut the hell up and let darwins nature takes > its course, which it appears has occured in this instance. Unforch, > now some jurisdiction is stuck with the bills for humainly feeding, > medicating and houseing this person that I'd describe as somewhat > mentally defective and certainly is not a productive member of the > human race. Worse yet, he will probably be eventually released back > into an unwary society while his ability to contribute to the gene pool > is still intact. > Gene, The article in question stated that the guy had said in 1989 that he didn't believe that the Holocaust was actually as bad as portrayed and that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz. He said at the recent trial that after he had read Eichmann's diary he had reformed his opinion and now believed that the Holocaust was as portrayed by most mainstream historians and that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz. He seems to be one of those people who needs indisputable evidence to buy into something. At least he is intelligent enough to look at proof and change his opinion. Of course, they're still putting him in prison for three years which, in my opinion, is dumb as a door knob. -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744
