On Saturday 11 March 2006 10:11, Maluvia wrote: >>A very good, if long ;), post. > >I think Carlo's got me beat by a few lines. :) > >>As for the donation thing, the one thing that irks me about all the >>independant bands I listen to is that I have to give my credit card >>number out to so many different places. It'd be nice to have a >> central place for this. OH I KNOW, that Digg-like site! We could >> have the infrastructure in place there to allow users to register >> their PayPal or CCs, and allow them to tip artists from a central >> location. The artists would have to register with the site, but I >> don't see that as a problem. The problem would be that we would need >> someone to pay for it all and develop it, and I can't do that myself >> right now, unfortunately. It's an idea, and it would help the >> convenience factor for end-users. > >That's a really good point. >Doubtless that is one of the disincentives to 'tipping' - it doesn't > seem worth the trouble if someone just wants to contribute < a > dollar, etc. for a track. >Any infrastructure that would make this simpler and more convenient > would help immensely. > >Promoting the use of 'Tags' might be a really good way to help > index/find all this independent net music. > >>anyone had a look to http://www.jamendo.com ? To see what this was all about, I went there too, read some reviews and since I like Vangelis flavored stuff, I selected a torrent in ogg q8. Unforch, I cannot make the torrent work as it seems to need the perl module BitTorrent.platform. The Traceback shows: [root@coyote music]# Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/bittorrent-console", line 17, in ? from BitTorrent.platform import install_translation ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.platform And the cpan shell can't find it. My BitTorrent install is the recent version 4.40, the trackerless version. Anybody have a clue? I'd assume its a perl module just because it was called a "module", maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? But BitTorrent seems to be written in python, so call me confuzgulated. We need a shell like cpan for python maybe? The bittorrent.com site isn't responding, so I guess I'll try Azureas next. Azureus says NAT error for its default port, or even for ports BitTorrent is using successfully. Ok, but that wants different ports, udp and tcp, opened up from what BitTorrent uses. Both udp and tcp for port 13697, but I'll be damned if I can get iptables to accept the new rules. Is there an iptables expert in the house? Or maybe I can get it to use the bt hole? Nope, 6882 is still the same NAT error for Azureus. Torrent however IS WORKING as I'm currently seeding ubuntu-5.10 at 19kb/sec up. I guess I'm clueless... HELP! >>*** >>Philippe > >Looks very promising! >It looks like they already have that infrastructure set up? >I'd never heard of that site - thanks for the link! >Looks like they're using the 'tags' idea already. > >I agree with Cesare that the 'label' term carries a lot of baggage. >Perhaps just 'net music' or 'net release'? > >>I've got it. We make 'musicstreams'. > >'Musicstreams' is certainly romantic. :) > >>I might add, we could create musicstream logos that have a $ sign >> (pay to download, don't share), a 'please donate' sign (a basket or >> hat, maybe), and a completely free (you are not expected to donate >> sign). > >I agree that that kind of clarification would be helpful. > >>Carotinho: I would use a seperate logo and campaign to advocate linux >>audio as cool... Which would somehow have to show that linux and >>geekiness is cool (we should use SEX for that... ;) > >I thought that had already been established! :) > >>for people who don't >>really know what it is (okay we'll have to assume people either know >>what sex is or know what linux is). And, mystically transfer a litte >>philosophy so the tech buffs can small talk 'logoed' people better... >>not to mention score more :) I always found scoring more important >> than looking cool to peers, although the two do share common ground. > >Good idea. >Being part of the new bohemian 'counter-culture' listening to > independent net music made with open-source software is super sexy > and very cool. :) > >- Maluvia -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
