>There is the linart list. I've thought throughout reading this thread >that much of the discussion might be appropriate there. It is currently >a very very quiet list. I don't even remember the address. But, I know a >bunch of the people on this list are subscribed there. If I remember >correctly, discussions about the creative (and perhaps spirtual) were >welcome there. It might just be possible to make that the warmer, >friendlier, less technically bombastic place you're seeking. I think I found it - here: http://lists.alt.org/mailman/listinfo/linart Appears to be defunct (since 2004), but thanks for the suggestion, Eric. I still like the *idea* of a 'Linux Audio After Hours pub - where OT is always on tap', but it just depends on whether I can find the time to put it up. (Doubtful.) (Currently own 7 domains I had big ideas for - all just sitting there.) :( It looks like things can get pretty OT here without it bothering anyone much - just seems to depend on people's mood and what is being discussed. Cheers, Maluvia