On Tue February 21 2006 16:52, Peter Bessman wrote: > Rob wrote: > > At any rate, not breach of contract, which was the whole > > point of that paragraph. > Oh, I'm sorry. Please explain to me how violating a license > does not constitute breech of contract. Please explain to me how I'm even party to a contract, assuming one exists, if I've never seen it. To this day I've never seen Syntrillium's EULA for Cool Edit Pro, and now they don't exist anymore and I go without stuff rather than pirating software. > Because I'm pretty > sure almost every EULA in the world (at least the ones I've > seen), secure you your rights so long as you are not found to > be "in breech of contract." Someone may have breached a contract with Syntrillium, if they were living in a venue where a shrink-wrap license can be construed to be a contract (since most pirated software back then originated outside the US, I have no idea). However, if I did anything illegal it was to violate their copyright. If you invite someone into your vacation rental and he does something that violates your rental contract, even if he was aware that one existed, you're the violator of that contract, not him. I don't see much point in reiterating this again, so I hope you're able to understand. Rob