On Tue February 21 2006 15:08, Peter Bessman wrote: > The fact that it's illegal to sell your vote does not prove > that contracts can be morally wrong. Not that the 'shrink-wrap licenses' to which Fons was referring are even accepted as contracts in many venues. I certainly never had a contract with, say, Syntrillian in the bad old days when I would download a pirated copy of Cool Edit Pro; the text of whatever EULA they used was never even included with the illicit version. The GPL itself is also not a contract; it's a license without which you can't distribute the program except by violating copyright. The respect argument is specious as well; I certainly don't respect Wal-Mart when I'm buying a new toothbrush or whatever. (And since I've paid for it, I'm perfectly within my rights to share that toothbrush with anyone, though I'd probably rather not.) So we're back to copyright violation, not breach of contract. And I stand by my original statement. I kinda like copyright now that there's enough software covered under the GPL to make it inconvenient for the people who fought so hard to extend copyright to cover computer software in the first place. Nonetheless, those who have attempted to use copyright to turn imaginary property (based on infinite reproducibility) into real property (based on scarcity) are wrong, no matter how much it might benefit them to do so. One million copies of notepad.exe have the exact same value in the real world as a single copy, regardless of how much sweat some peon in Redmond shed during its initial development. And that goes for emacs, Finder, Doom 3, Donkey Kong, In A Silent Way, Oliver Twist, Citizen Kane and the Mona Lisa too. I don't want to hear the "but no one can make any money unless we treat copies like physical objects" line anymore either. If I went into business selling a new kind of wrenches, with a shrink-wrap agreement on the outside requiring that they were only to be used by the purchaser, and then went broke because people started sharing their wrenches left and right despite my legal threats, I would deserve to be broke for pursuing such an unrealistic business plan. See also: CueCat. Rob