i've been trying to set up an alsa virtual midi card (to use Steem with some soft synths) to no avail. i'm running FC4 planet ccrma kernel 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma on a fujitsu s2020 laptop. had no trouble back when i was using ccrma FC3... (i tried posting on the planet ccrma list, but got no responses, so i'm hoping this group can help out?) attempting to hand load the snd-virmidi module results in: [root@localhost bernie]# /sbin/modprobe snd-virmidi snd_index=2 FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma/updates/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) ...but when i look at /var/log/dmesg (is that the right place?) i can't see anything relating to it. any help would be much appreciated... bernie