i think, that, just because something else is radical as well (as in the sense of "scrap what we know, develop a new interface from scratch"), that doesn't mean its not possible to develop many concurrent interfaces from scratch. On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 09:22 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > However I don't think it's *that* radical. The Xennakis' UPIC and > Puckette's Pd (1) use "innovative" graphical user interface elements > as well. Although these two programs have a different focus anyway. > > (1) http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s9 > > Ciao