Hi I'm having trouble with my alsa setup under debian/unstable with the multimedia kernel from demudi. If I have my usb hub (with 3 usb keyboards + edirol sound card) plugged in during boot, everything works fine. How ever if I plug them in later *or* pulls/reinserts it after an otherwise succesful plugged-in boot, the order gets mixed up. Most anoying is that the edirol sound card is now card 4, instead of 1. This also means the I cannot figure out where it is for a jackd call. I used to have everything showing up at the same place every time. Hope someone can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. NB: I *did* run modules-update Here's some info from my system, first after boot with the usb in: [atte@aarhus ~]$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0xdc00, irq 10 1 [UA1A ]: USB-Audio - EDIROL UA-1A Roland EDIROL UA-1A at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.1, full speed 2 [Keyboard ]: USB-Audio - MK-449C USB MIDI Keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-449C USB MIDI Keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.2, f 3 [keyboard ]: USB-Audio - MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.3, f 4 [keyboard_1 ]: USB-Audio - MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.4, f Then after pulling/reinserting it: [atte@aarhus ~]$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0xdc00, irq 10 1 [Keyboard ]: USB-Audio - MK-449C USB MIDI Keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-449C USB MIDI Keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.2, f 2 [keyboard ]: USB-Audio - MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.3, f 3 [keyboard_1 ]: USB-Audio - MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard Evolution Electronics Ltd. MK-249C USB MIDI keyboard at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.4, f 4 [UA1A ]: USB-Audio - EDIROL UA-1A Roland EDIROL UA-1A at usb-0000:00:03.1-2.1, full speed [atte@aarhus ~]$ cat /etc/modutils/alsa alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore # i810 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 # ua-1a alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 # virtual midi alias sound-service-2-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-2-8 snd-seq-oss alias snd-card-2 snd-virmidi alias sound-slot-2 snd-card-2 #evolution 1 alias snd-card-3 snd-usb-audio alias sound-slot-3 snd-card-3 #evolution 2 alias snd-card-4 snd-usb-audio alias sound-slot-4 snd-card-4 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 options snd-usb-audio index=1,3,4,5,6 vid=0x0582 nrpacks=1 options snd-virmidi index=2 My kernel: [atte@aarhus ~]$ uname -r 2.6.12-3-multimedia-686 -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://www.atte.dk