Apologies for not staying in thread, but when I reply my messages get held for approval (I have suspicious headers??) To recap: I have a delta 44. lsmod shows that the ice1712 driver is correctly loading. Both kmix and envy24control show all channels etc. However, I don't seem to be able to output to it using ALSA. (In envy24control, the meters never show activity; in xmms, which I am using as a step 1, anything I try results in "are you sure you card is configured"...) Could somebody guide me through the ALSA settings that work for them for, e.g. xmms? Thanks Reuben