Noah Roberts wrote: >>>Sound click is neither intrusive nor malevolent. They provide a >>>pretty decent service to the community for free. The only thing they >>>want is a login name. This is probably to save on bandwidth, >>> >>> >>> >>isn't it more likely that it is "probably" to do with advertising dollars? >> >> > >How so? "we will never make any of this information available to >others without your consent (see privacy policy for details)" How >then, are they making money off of your username? At worst their >software tracks your preferences and uses it for providing the best >ads in the website when you visit, but it probably does this >anyway...much like gmail. > >Perhapse they have better negotiating powers with more signups. I >think that is about as far as you can reach with that. > > exactly - that's the first thing advertisers want to know - "what's your subsriber base?". that is about as far as one *needs* to go to prove that point. > > >> >> >>>those >>>unwilling to participate in the community don't get any. >>> >>> >>> >>by participating, i guess you mean "providing private information about >>yourself" and/or "wasting time needlessly" ... >> >> > > "Registered members enjoy lots of benefits like winning mp3 players, >your own My.SoundClick account with your playlists, you can vote for >your favorite bands, post your opinions on message boards and much >more." > >In other words, participate in a community. Community members get the >works. Those just passing through don't get as much. > >Here is the required "private information about yourself" you must provide: > >* username >* password >* email >* country > >The rest is optional. The first two are obvious necessities. The >third to make sure you are a real person (otherwise spammers can get >accounts and use them to fuck with other users). I don't know why >they want country but it isn't a major concern...lie if you want. >They can get it from your IP anyway.. > what if you use a foreign proxy? >.if you are THAT paranoid you >shouldn't be on the Internet at all; otherwise you are just kidding >yourself. > > i mean, if you're posting > > >>a song to the list for comment, it should at least be freely accessible >>and *easy* to access - i.e. you should be able to click on alink from >>your mail client that will automatically bring up a "save to ..." box, >>not a registration page. >> >> > >Well, you won't get a "save to..." box but you will see links to lo-fi >streams. If you want more you have to do more...and not a whole lot >more really. > > > > >>>Many other >>>sites do the same thing; if they allowed downloads without an account >>>it would tripple the requirements of their systems...why the expense >>>for a bunch of dorks that don't want to be a part of what is going on? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>well, it's just that there's more than Soundclick going on ... and >>soundclick seems to sort of suck. i went to download your song, then saw >>what was required, and realised i was a "dork". >> >> > >Good. Then stick with the stream or don't listen at all. (Yeah, I >was wrong...this is even stupider than I thought. You can listen to >the hi-fi stream without signing up!!!) > > > yeah, i just noticed that ... goodo .... is it not possible to provide a link to the stream, then? >That seems pretty simple to me. When you start providing the same >service they do for free I might see you as something other than a >snot nosed brat. > > > how about this, ya arrogant prick: http://www.machinehasnoagenda.com/jinzora.html >>>I'm sorry, but when a company offers something free like soundclick >>>does it is pretty lame to complain about them wanting login accounts >>>to use it. Everyone else charges their artists or provide limited >>>space. Soundclick does neither. IMHO they deserve some kudo's for >>>that, not a bunch of complaining because they want login >>>accounts...that is just stupid and selfish. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>those comments themselves are stupid and selfish. >> >> > >How so? > > because they are arrogant. >>>No, I am proud to be an artist on soundclick's website. If you don't >>>like it you don't get to download my music. I am not going to let >>>that bother me too much. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>hooray. >> >> > >? > > > hooray.